X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.213.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTPS id 5523026 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 May 2012 13:15:57 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.52; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by yhpp61 with SMTP id p61so3487419yhp.25 for ; Fri, 04 May 2012 10:15:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9ce9SIj8EkUI7Hlk4wun5OAZY2J5d/BKH3966OIc/x0=; b=u3W4C+DYNOPbsweeJQdEZ4KNRH8dda3TZVAI44doh2Z0FtMIrto9CN8xUSCBZQTvZ3 siBaYAMhUm68TrD1QYGuiZV5NvNd3q5VoddnChUc0a/6bKYhGuDW+gtGdT7hIGqXOsRN QIjBjXklxcocglVicdlEMniT5oUBdp1vS/1jijT0sG8nSR6cxTULt1s7eApUVTdniHGu opd5hqI0fm9X3z7EGL1me0YwwwNj5hNfDgde0aLBFecxG27Nq4zrF7AR0TPSLFSgqI0r bp4kHGYg9CnR8C6RWKmdBRoHteslYL40WzThdFiQJwsvB0KSlYkG4/ERf3w4VkBFn6a0 R3rQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.170.145 with SMTP id am17mr109841oec.73.1336151720378; Fri, 04 May 2012 10:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.165.67 with HTTP; Fri, 4 May 2012 10:15:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 12:15:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: At least I didn't.... From: Kelly Troyer To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54c4faea8bf7c04bf39107a --bcaec54c4faea8bf7c04bf39107a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I had faith you could do it !!.......................<:) KT On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Michael McMahon wrote: > Congratulations Ernest! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > Behalf Of downing.j@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 5:01 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: At least I didn't.... > > Ernest, be easy on yourself, it's not us mortals, it's Murphy. JohnD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ernest Christley" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 7:54 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] At least I didn't.... > > > > Cause an interplanetary probe to crash or an airliner to run out of > fuel. > > > > You know, one of those stupid mistake caused by incorrect conversions. My > > conversion trip-up was converting "front rotor" from the car to the > > airplane (and ignoring the "F" and "R" that I stamped into the rotor > > housings). > > > > I had fuel. I had air. I had spark. It was just that the spark was > > going to the wrong rotor. And I used a timing light to verify that I was > > getting the spark. Except I took the timing from the wrong rotor. I > even > > > searched this group and verified that I had the EDIS-4 coils wired > > correctly. Connectors 1 and 4 go to the front rotor. Given that the > > front rotor is the one in the front on the airplane, not the car. > > > > Doh!! > > > > Once I switched the plug wires around and cleared the engine (turned it a > > bit with the fuel pumps and injectors off), the engine kicked off in two > > blades. Someone has GOT to develop a cure for stupid, or I'm doomed. > > > > Word to the wise. You've verified fuel, air, and spark, and compression. > > The engine's spinning with the starter at around 250rpm, but it just > won't > > > kick off. Every few turns, though, it is like something blocks the > engine > > > from turning and it stall for a split second. Check your spark plug > > wiring. > > > > Good news: > > - FIRST TAXI !!! It was only about 3ft, but it is the first time in this > > ten year project that I've had something to move under its own power!! > > > > - The manifold modification is a success. I had the secondary injectors > > spraying backwards, away from the runner, under the theory that it would > > help the fuel vaporize better. Wrong. It just puddled in the manifold. > > A little more fiberglass work, and both sets are spraying with the > airflow > > > now. I cut power to the fuel pump and the engine immediately cuts out. > > It used to slowly choke down as it was sucking some of the puddled fuel > > out of the manifold. > > > > - I don't seem to have damaged anything with the backwards plug wires. > > > > - I've got to rework my tune. Yes, this is a good thing. The aggressive > > prop is loading the engine, combined with the fuel actually getting > burned > > > AS it is injected and not after it has pooled a while, have combined to > > throw off the current tune. Fortunately, this isn't very hard with a > > running engine. > > > > -FIRST TAXI !! I'm juiced. You guys that are flying better watch your > > six. I'm a comin'. > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta_"Eventually" 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 --bcaec54c4faea8bf7c04bf39107a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had faith you could do it !!.......................<:)
=A0
KT

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Michael McMahon= <afm528@gmail.com> wrote:
Congratulations Ernest!

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary mot= ors in aircraft [mailto:flyr= otary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of downing.j@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 5:01 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: At least I didn't....=

Ernest, be easy on yourself, it's not us mortals, it's Murp= hy. =A0JohnD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Christle= y" <echristley@att.net>= ;
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, May = 04, 2012 7:54 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] At least I didn't....


> Cause an interplanetary probe to crash or an airline= r to run out of fuel.
>
> You know, one of those stupid mistake= caused by incorrect conversions. My
> conversion trip-up was convert= ing "front rotor" from the car to the
> airplane (and ignoring the "F" and "R" that I stam= ped into the rotor
> housings).
>
> I had fuel. =A0I had = air. =A0I had spark. =A0It was just that the spark was
> going to the= wrong rotor. =A0And I used a timing light to verify that I was
> getting the spark. =A0Except I took the timing from the wrong rotor. = =A0I even

> searched this group and verified that I had the EDIS-= 4 coils wired
> correctly. =A0Connectors 1 and 4 go to the front roto= r. =A0Given that the
> front rotor is the one in the front on the airplane, not the car.
&= gt;
> Doh!!
>
> Once I switched the plug wires around and= cleared the engine (turned it a
> bit with the fuel pumps and inject= ors off), the engine kicked off in two
> blades. Someone has GOT to develop a cure for stupid, or I'm doome= d.
>
> Word to the wise. =A0You've verified fuel, air, and = spark, and compression.
> The engine's spinning with the starter = at around 250rpm, but it just won't

> kick off. =A0Every few turns, though, it is like something blocks = the engine

> from turning and it stall for a split second. =A0Che= ck your spark plug
> wiring.
>
> Good news:
> - FIR= ST TAXI !!! =A0It was only about 3ft, but it is the first time in this
> ten year project that I've had something to move under its own pow= er!!
>
> - The manifold modification is a success. =A0I had the= secondary injectors
> spraying backwards, away from the runner, unde= r the theory that it would
> help the fuel vaporize better. =A0Wrong. =A0It just puddled in the man= ifold.
> A little more fiberglass work, and both sets are spraying wi= th the airflow

> now. =A0I cut power to the fuel pump and the eng= ine immediately cuts out.
> It used to slowly choke down as it was sucking some of the puddled fue= l
> out of the manifold.
>
> - I don't seem to have d= amaged anything with the backwards plug wires.
>
> - I've g= ot to rework my tune. =A0Yes, this is a good thing. =A0The aggressive
> prop is loading the engine, combined with the fuel actually getting bu= rned

> AS it is injected and not after it has pooled a while, hav= e combined to
> throw off the current tune. =A0Fortunately, this isn&= #39;t very hard with a
> running engine.
>
> -FIRST TAXI !! =A0I'm juiced. =A0Y= ou guys that are flying better watch your
> six. =A0I'm a comin&#= 39;.
>
> --
> Homepage: =A0http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub:
> http://mail.lancaironline.net= :81/lists/flyrotary/List.html


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