X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.139] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with SMTP id 5522417 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 May 2012 08:01:42 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.213.139; envelope-from=downing.j@sbcglobal.net Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm27.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 May 2012 12:01:06 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 May 2012 12:01:06 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 May 2012 12:01:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 May 2012 12:01:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 22998.94649.bm@omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83725 invoked from network); 4 May 2012 12:01:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=RsIdFHmSmQvFJJcyKXWdnEPtuH8YW3TTmmQX8PAa/C+vtW3s7AJSmh9reyHR40w+9ArI/SaXTitfDmvQ05XD4/vzFHSfwKAO3Bm8Q7jTb/tMYlabQzS5//qlvE7Qe8HYSZL8zAIsva3PLJOdgR/cXRT08o2zQpsoSDKDKyWqB8k= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1336132865; bh=COHNSa22jmdpQcRdUbCsRtV7aQuknEPIN0XKY4unsNs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=1uupdVm0+9Fbzn7Krm0cr2m5tb05WIlx54uK3dJZRsKlMZiOlpziLy2SMmDOaWZ9lw0Q1XYEi+24ntpTLL1q614aQrWSxzltfJidVhXPEsYNvb+6a+cBIWUQHBMx+XirMcrKka+15JlhE247UlMCdcDeAAdZ3PCZOsDbhBUlTAo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: bXxDFDcVM1kJhUlpKrookWfq3wvPZkbV3aa2hEIkX9E1JAg 1Cf8UXXvqCLFXl0S3S_7ccLUe83jxNLxfa3slmRrZMuSZ2WOPPkHQDk1erLC x8dmJCu0gI07PDmbRQgbORnNRDf7wKjUU4Hp.o3hzRIuE1NeZ9gXzs2nPEVa DbKGiJ0xJHnh4F44Tj_rmtoTCVpB8dIRIEo5fHzm.xd5lI_SYM2eb6vn_TH4 7eVx9YVMFTkeIfZC0URFnMA28j4c1cIhlFrF6vJwFcVxD96yoBycwP42WXBs OCqe7EX6WTvRVokKPeKNeLwCZLgT8cZXWzNAP_IEK2OPCKas.CiUWiuz0CaD RfvEYnSCNF9_I8kN5djlSytKov6WL44UZP8XSTR5CtNx88gF4NqS5vJLuYp. uGLOkYWs3D6RxUvBl7.Ipm_XpxSnYbcfMVnDqRJwx7FvjKrNhoo7iTS2T65S pLvVf0YZCuXdKuK6.FlZ4M5fNfSBsFFAICy.vGO12GWVtt2BK1jTu8pN9Bc3 kWgKidr6P X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4Ss7WYSswBAR3ULsDHPw5yIFKkoakpn6PCJcwuPp3izwMVSl Received: from JohnPC (downing.j@69.208.77.193 with login) by smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 May 2012 05:01:05 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <3F8AC8AA0F70466BA4297973E8D85339@JohnPC> From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] At least I didn't.... Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:01:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Ernest, be easy on yourself, it's not us mortals, it's Murphy. JohnD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 7:54 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] At least I didn't.... > Cause an interplanetary probe to crash or an airliner to run out of fuel. > > You know, one of those stupid mistake caused by incorrect conversions. My > conversion trip-up was converting "front rotor" from the car to the > airplane (and ignoring the "F" and "R" that I stamped into the rotor > housings). > > I had fuel. I had air. I had spark. It was just that the spark was > going to the wrong rotor. And I used a timing light to verify that I was > getting the spark. Except I took the timing from the wrong rotor. I even > searched this group and verified that I had the EDIS-4 coils wired > correctly. Connectors 1 and 4 go to the front rotor. Given that the > front rotor is the one in the front on the airplane, not the car. > > Doh!! > > Once I switched the plug wires around and cleared the engine (turned it a > bit with the fuel pumps and injectors off), the engine kicked off in two > blades. Someone has GOT to develop a cure for stupid, or I'm doomed. > > Word to the wise. You've verified fuel, air, and spark, and compression. > The engine's spinning with the starter at around 250rpm, but it just won't > kick off. Every few turns, though, it is like something blocks the engine > from turning and it stall for a split second. Check your spark plug > wiring. > > Good news: > - FIRST TAXI !!! It was only about 3ft, but it is the first time in this > ten year project that I've had something to move under its own power!! > > - The manifold modification is a success. I had the secondary injectors > spraying backwards, away from the runner, under the theory that it would > help the fuel vaporize better. Wrong. It just puddled in the manifold. > A little more fiberglass work, and both sets are spraying with the airflow > now. I cut power to the fuel pump and the engine immediately cuts out. > It used to slowly choke down as it was sucking some of the puddled fuel > out of the manifold. > > - I don't seem to have damaged anything with the backwards plug wires. > > - I've got to rework my tune. Yes, this is a good thing. The aggressive > prop is loading the engine, combined with the fuel actually getting burned > AS it is injected and not after it has pooled a while, have combined to > throw off the current tune. Fortunately, this isn't very hard with a > running engine. > > -FIRST TAXI !! I'm juiced. You guys that are flying better watch your > six. I'm a comin'. > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html