X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5475786 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:07:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.180; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by qcsd15 with SMTP id d15so13511qcs.25 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:06:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=S8RnZcVG43TPn/A6m4OrMfZRTUtnMOQAwhWktodLtWU=; b=PNLJPInAr2D6vUZQFn20pz+jIXfRO+QIbDFum+bSc1dus2Fim/bDcuvq6yj5lhYAqG OcbAUim2DU835WmlM0npShLxjtMWChF9eVfDKncnEXoL5qkz6XFSRYR44eqPqzkfMdy9 2L/6nat0TBUFYaR2/upV5hZzQSQAsw0Q1AvMNvd97gS2upuppKEEe2VwTBYq/BD9fzi7 F7SPufQGIvmWbNhobOhWAn+4sPy1FaJGsXNFmgxSpUy+6g0URHQlZ3TKc6HE2xyHTALR Vm5hYqIzRN0pIDzkRQp2OTF4o/9vDfBE4UXGlsKH0EO1zHRu2P9KCxXQBXIuA9yyBr1r 2Vgw== Received: by 10.224.180.200 with SMTP id bv8mr15749359qab.29.1334077618987; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.2] (100.sub-166-248-135.myvzw.com. [166.248.135.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gy2sm735391qab.10.2012.04.10.10.06.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Mixture graph on EM-2 References: From: Tracy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-25--711866434 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8F191) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <331C1526-E202-4625-BCEA-6A40C392E68C@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:06:55 -0400 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8F191) --Apple-Mail-25--711866434 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Bill, First, be aware that O2 sensors do not work properly when cold so the readin= g means nothing when the engine is not running. Try this test: Connect the o2 sensor connection to ground and see what th= e monitor indicates. It should be at minimum or no reading at all. Or, y= ou could start the engine and see what happens. Tell me what happens. Tracy Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:23 AM, "Bill Bradburry" wr= ote: > Hi Tracy, >=20 > =20 >=20 > I talked with you several weeks ago about my mixture graph going to max an= d staying there. I just got the plane out of the paint shop and started try= ing to look at the problem.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > The graph stays maxed out and stays there when the power is turned on. It= is not affected by removing the O2 sensor from the exhaust so that it is no= t grounded. This is all when the engine is not running and is cold. What a= re the failure modes that could cause this? I don=E2=80=99t think that it i= s coming from the sensor since it is the same when it is cold and ungrounded= . >=20 > =20 >=20 > I know you mentioned bad grounds before, but I can find nothing wrong with= grounds. Everything else works that I know of. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Ideas please! >=20 > =20 >=20 > Bill B --Apple-Mail-25--711866434 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hi Bill,
First, be aware that= O2 sensors do not work properly when cold so the reading means nothing when= the engine is not running.

Try this test:   &= nbsp;Connect the o2 sensor connection to ground and see what the monitor ind= icates.   It should be at minimum or no reading at all.   Or, &nbs= p;you could start the engine and see what happens.   Tell me what happe= ns.

Tracy

Sent from my iPad

On= Apr 10, 2012, at 11:23 AM, "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

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Hi Tracy,

 

I talked with you several weeks ago abo= ut my mixture graph going to max and staying there.  I just got the plane o= ut of the paint shop and started trying to look at the problem. 

 

The graph stays maxed out and stays the= re when the power is turned on.  It is not affected by removing the O2 sen= sor from the exhaust so that it is not grounded.  This is all when the engi= ne is not running and is cold.  What are the failure modes that could caus= e this?  I don=E2=80=99t think that it is coming from the sensor since it= is the same when it is cold and ungrounded.

 

I know you mentioned bad grounds before= , but I can find nothing wrong with grounds.  Everything else works that I= know of.

 

Ideas please!<= /p>

 

Bill B

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