X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5472976 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:14:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.180; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so4602241obb.25 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:13:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Nkr+gLtntUTnnImiC9B/9l2HXq1IaQCZO3Q94Bphs8k=; b=npZE80U0kSdFSEIbz60bedMPRSu6I7UNlucjnsTcMqqXa+R2WxwfTchXVLZuJPLtVU 7iNGAGG28LnU074QJFytwpNMeDl6gN0r33WUqzuuY9riD4wdN8NPzyxOce2Ju+t4cNVH PaDXAaXr9vTIMjo0zsG6Y5m/xfTR+bKWSuPhge7S9RfUwDnYXTXLG+WT8nQ3yaOnsKVK oGrir43psbXflQVIZ8UO7BrBeHhOQDlaRjtZOxGKiV8T2FE4oOjsR+cMxsvprqiv1xqz xlAsGV5T7xkPd/HS0evSBrQGosrfXgVoPXURrJBHxHk7a5/Vnsi2Kx5khWg3BXzaFLnE wWkg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.20.3 with SMTP id j3mr6057160oee.43.1333894403896; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.165.67 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 07:13:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:13:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: OMP Plumbing From: Kelly Troyer To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb207621cb48604bd2b7e06 --e89a8fb207621cb48604bd2b7e06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mark, As an information point the the early 89 model13B (up to a certain vin number ) used the 86-88 pump before going to the later pump used through 91..............If you already have Richards adapter make sure it will bolt to your front cover...............<:) Kelly On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Richard Sohn wrote: > Mark, this pump uses an o-ring. It is the same o-ring on the pump and > the adapter. I have some laying around. Let me know if you need them, and I > will put two in an envelope. > Need a mailing address on my private email. > > Richard Sohn > N2071U > > http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html > > *From:* Mark Steitle > *Sent:* Sunday, April 08, 2012 8:40 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: OMP Plumbing > > Kelly, > > Wouldn't you know, I found my 13b front cover. As they say, "If it had > been a snake, it would have bit me." So, you can keep the one you have > (maybe make a clock out of it). It is off an '89 6-port engine. The pump > I have is off the same engine, so everything fits. Anybody know where I > can get a gasket to fit this pump? > > Mark > > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > >> Mark, >> Do you have a 86-88 or 89-91 metering pump ?.............I have both >> covers but Richard's adapters are different >> for these model years............. >> >> Kelly >> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: >> >>> Richard, >>> >>> Thanks for the great information. That supports what instinct was >>> telling me. So, anywhere upstream of the butterfly should work? I'm >>> running three 1-barrel throttle-bodies on my p-port 3-rotor. If I >>> understand you, I should hook the check valve for each rotor upstream of >>> the respective TB butterfly, correct? >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Richard Sohn wrote: >>> >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> you need the injection check valves hooked up to your intake plenum. >>>> The oil intake only works with the pressure difference between the >>>> combustion chamber and the plenum during the intake cycle. The check valve >>>> prevents oil from being pushed into the vacuum lines by reverse pressure >>>> fluctuations. >>>> As far as the control lever is concerned, you have a good plan. You may >>>> want to make the lever position adjustable so you can set the oil >>>> consumption to a level that makes you and the engine feel good. >>>> FWIW >>>> >>>> Richard Sohn >>>> N2071U >>>> >>>> http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html >>>> >>>> *From:* Mark Steitle >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:10 PM >>>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >>>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] OMP Plumbing >>>> >>>> Is anyone running an oil metering pump (OMP) that can help me figure >>>> out how the lines should be connected. I'm planning on using the Mazda >>>> banjo fittings to hook up to the OMP, but what do I do with the check >>>> valves. Do you connect the check valves to a vacuum source or just block >>>> them off? Will the system work properly if I plug the check valves? I >>>> plan on locking the lever in the full open position. Will this work for >>>> a/c use? I'll be using Richard Sohn's adapter with a 1 gallon reservoir >>>> filled with 2-stroke oil. >>>> >>>> Mark S. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > --e89a8fb207621cb48604bd2b7e06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
=A0=A0 As an information point the the early 89 model13B (up to a cert= ain vin number ) used the 86-88 pump
before going to the later pump used= through 91..............If you already have Richards adapter make sure
it will bolt to your front cover...............<:)
=A0
Kelly
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Richard Sohn <res12@fairpoint.n= et> wrote:
Mark, this pump uses an o-ring. It is the same o-ring on the pump and = the adapter. I have some laying around. Let me know if you need them, and I= will put two in an envelope.
Need a mailing address on my private email.
=A0
=A0
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: OMP Plumbing
=A0
Kelly,=A0=20
=A0
Wouldn't you know, I found my 13b front cover.=A0 As they say, &qu= ot;If it had been a snake, it would have bit me."=A0 So, you can keep = the one you have (maybe make a clock out of it).=A0 It is off an '89 6-= port engine.=A0 The pump I have is off the same engine, so everything fits.= =A0 Anybody know where I can get a gasket to fit this pump?
=A0
Mark


On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Kelly Troyer <k= eltro@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
=A0=A0=A0 Do you have a 86-88=A0 or 89-91 metering pump ?.............= I have both covers but Richard's adapters are different
for these model years.............
=A0
Kelly
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Richard,=A0=20
=A0
Thanks for the great information.=A0 That supports what instinct was t= elling me.=A0 So, anywhere upstream of the butterfly should work?=A0 I'= m running three 1-barrel throttle-bodies on my p-port 3-rotor.=A0 If I unde= rstand you, I should hook the check valve for each rotor upstream of the re= spective TB butterfly, correct?
=A0
Mark

On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Richard Sohn <res12@fairpoint.net> wrote:
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Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:10 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <= /div>
Subject: [FlyRotary] OMP Plumbing
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Is anyone runnin= g an oil metering pump (OMP) that can help me figure out how the lines shou= ld be connected.=A0 I'm planning on using the Mazda banjo fittings to h= ook up to the OMP, but what do I do with the check valves.=A0 Do you connec= t the check valves to a vacuum source or just block them off?=A0 Will the s= ystem work properly if I plug the check valves?=A0 I plan on locking the le= ver in the full open position.=A0 Will this work for a/c use?=A0 I'll b= e using Richard Sohn's adapter with a 1 gallon reservoir filled with 2-= stroke oil.=A0=A0=A0=20
=A0
Mark S.
=A0


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