X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5463734 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:28:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.180; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by obbwd18 with SMTP id wd18so2338226obb.25 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:27:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uLno3MYLKJdlpK139DeTXvl6TEdDtZVUsM+AmOTux1s=; b=jtxqmgt53hTNkf/iqKj1/R9wBEpE5UCASV/MHkoE8fb61i9gXWGYTzBn0gDP7kQTWb vXhquMW0CQYUPvH+gZfPRVrr34gvsw6Sx414LipX2xYQXtXfy00UiAC5XgxVPa72oI83 PpV9xvnHJ2uqvG1crVpFqbhfmIoMDJ+dpegxSIFZpnez/biVUeD37kkCxhN8Tp4k4hki HmMu+km3aMTMzzS2SGyXLvbWLBP4xaCpY3QXVhKwZm/w5znwRtfWXQH3+Hja+co+ve1a xghBX61sRUy9z8k5eAwrZO5EN1AskVMSXXOtsxaaobm+ZVmrTv2acHwi4+4lOR4it2De XMBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.25.73 with SMTP id a9mr3386901oeg.63.1333211255852; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.165.67 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:27:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:27:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Injector Banjo Spacers From: Kelly Troyer To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff2564250cd4204bc8c6f38 --e89a8ff2564250cd4204bc8c6f38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mark, One other thought about your damaged apex seals..............You did not say what damage looked like but is there any chance that the P port welding was not ground completely level with the rotor ID or that the weld could have caused a slight distortion in the surface............Might be worth a detailed inspection of that rotor housing since it is disassembled................ Kelly T On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > Mark, > Do you have a large area vacuum chamber in your map plumbing > ?.............Perhaps one might reduce the pulses from all three rotors > to a level that will acceptable to the EC-2..................(I know you > need more things to fix)...................<:) > > Kelly T > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: > >> Yes, had to open up the bore just a bit and counter-bore one end as the >> oil injection bolt has a step. Anyway, I was able to hook up the check >> valves and wouldn't you know, it ran worse than before. So, now I have >> them blocked off and I'm sampling MAP from only one rotor. For some >> unknown reason, it runs the best with vacuum sense from only one rotor. >> >> I found damaged apex seals on rotor #1, the one that was cutting out. >> So, I had to pull the engine and tear it down. I sent the apex seals to >> Tracy to look at and evaluate. He couldn't say for sure, but thought it >> must have been from FOD. I ordered new apex seals and o-rings and will be >> putting it back together soon. >> >> I also sent the EC-2 to Tracy for checkout and s/w upgrade. He didn't >> find anything to account for the symptoms I've been seeing. He made some >> mods, upgraded the s/w and it is now on its way back. >> >> Thanks, >> Mark >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: >> >>> Mark, >>> Did the spacers work to replace your oil injection banjos >>> ??................ >>> >>> -- >>> Kelly Troyer >>> Dyke Delta_"Eventually" >>> 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 >>> >> >> > > > -- > Kelly Troyer > Dyke Delta_"Eventually" > 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 > -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta_"Eventually" 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 --e89a8ff2564250cd4204bc8c6f38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0Mark,
=A0=A0 One other thought about your damaged apex seals..............Yo= u did not say what damage looked like but is
there any chance that the P port welding was not ground completely lev= el with the rotor ID or that the weld
could have caused a slight distortion in the surface............Might = be worth a detailed inspection of that rotor
housing since it is disassembled................
=A0
Kelly T
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Kelly Troyer <= span dir=3D"ltr"><= keltro@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
=A0=A0 Do you have a large area vacuum chamber=A0in your map plumbing = ?.............Perhaps one might reduce the pulses from all three rotors
to a level that will acceptable to the EC-2..................(I know y= ou need more things to fix)...................<:)
=A0
Kelly T

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, had to open up the bore just a b= it and counter-bore one end as the oil injection bolt has a step. =A0Anyway= , I was able to hook up the check valves and wouldn't you know, it ran = worse than before. =A0So, now I have them blocked off and I'm sampling = MAP from only one rotor. =A0For some unknown reason, it runs the best with = vacuum sense from only one rotor.=20

I found damaged apex seals on rotor #1, the one that was cutting out. = =A0So, I had to pull the engine and tear it down. =A0I sent the apex seals = to Tracy to look at and evaluate. =A0He couldn't say for sure, but thou= ght it must have been from FOD. =A0I ordered new apex seals and o-rings and= will be putting it back together soon. =A0

I also sent the EC-2 to Tracy for checkout and s/w upgrade. =A0He didn= 't find anything to account for the symptoms I've been seeing. =A0H= e made some mods, upgraded the s/w and it is now on its way back.

Thanks,
Mark =A0=A0=20


On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Kelly Troyer <k= eltro@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
=A0 Did the spacers work to replace your oil injection banjos ??......= ..........

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Dyke Delta_"Eventually"
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