X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5435507 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:09:33 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.52; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by lahi5 with SMTP id i5so1889792lah.25 for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:08:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n2b5wScqv7PgVdIeEs9wWfz/EAYD7zdqDrfbBjTXSbg=; b=VG0jnWtLf78StG0Y+ShmhxLp6qjcSi3rtDN+OpFoYzXs2qOXb1/gLCtl0V5Ss1oPRe /A4xkN7My00Cn/9i/gj4xz98QMHCd/K9e4rLUtfqnS1+bIGhLNkeNqzKCVQaDyzCMHJr 60KD5+LF6xNesj1h5f482pbhq+zEleW2h2X2OsxoW94IgnDlbGW70TGzpIzWenCBHB// gbiF9DqrwtuJadNOvdYfI0SHuG83AwhmW7YEBqPg4tpQh1LrWVPXcQToxPFn5dqdyyZo 12kaqIVCLOvkfPTSD3CDH8c3LDupHiXAOrlO/qkQYh6bIpe56HSGR0sZVCtqbcFTrVhW nwsA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.130.102 with SMTP id od6mr2623788lab.14.1331323736632; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.94.179 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 12:08:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:08:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re:Closed Loop mod for EC3 / coil failure From: Tracy To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043086fc672dc304bad4f674 --f46d043086fc672dc304bad4f674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 After 3 years of fiddling around with it I finally finished the "self programming" version of the EC3 software. Working well on the bench and will soon try it on the engine. It has two closed loop modes, one where the controller monitors the mixture and trims the injection to keep mixture at stoic. (14.7 : 1 A/F) as long as the basic programming is within trim range which is pretty wide. The other closed loop mode works the same way but uses a very narrow trim range and updates the map table if necessary to keep the mixture at 14.7. Since the loop is all internal to the EC3 it happens MUCH faster than the EM2/3 auto program mode in earlier versions and of course does not require the EM2/3 to work. Should eliminate a lot of tuning headaches for some builders. It does require the O2 sensor input of the EC3 to be connected to the sensor of course. This input was unused in the past. The open loop mode is still there for use after the map table has been programmed. Failures of the O2 sensor, wiring or use of 100LL won't cause a problem in this mode. Coil Failure: Just an FYI data point. At about 85 hours on the 20B I had a failure of an LS-1 D-580 type ignition coil, the first one I've ever heard of. This one was a low cost aftermarket version, not AC Delco so that may be a factor or it may have been a random failure. As usual, the in-flight symptom was a rise in EGT on the affected rotor. Engine continued to run normally. Disabling the not-affected coil set (trailing in this case) caused the rotor to drop out during the next pre-flight engine checks. Tracy --f46d043086fc672dc304bad4f674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After 3 years of fiddling around with it I finally finished the "self = programming" version of the EC3 software.=A0=A0 Working well on the be= nch and will soon try it on the engine.

It has two closed loop modes= , one where the controller monitors the mixture and trims the injection to = keep mixture at stoic. (14.7 : 1 A/F)=A0 as long as the basic programming i= s within trim range which is pretty wide.

The other closed loop mode works the same way but uses a very narrow tr= im range and updates the map table if necessary to keep the mixture at 14.7= .=A0=A0 Since the loop is all internal to the EC3 it happens MUCH faster th= an the EM2/3 auto program mode in earlier versions and of course does not r= equire the EM2/3 to work. =A0 Should eliminate a lot of tuning headaches fo= r some builders.

It does require the O2 sensor input of the EC3 to be connected to the s= ensor of course.=A0=A0 This input was unused in the past.

The open l= oop mode is still there for use after the map table has been programmed.=A0= =A0 Failures of the O2 sensor, wiring or use of 100LL won't cause a pro= blem in this mode.

Coil Failure:

Just an FYI data point.=A0=A0 At about 85 hours on= the 20B I had a failure of an LS-1 D-580 type ignition coil, the first one= I've ever heard of.=A0=A0 This one was a low cost aftermarket version,= not AC Delco so that may be a factor or it may have been a random failure.= =A0=A0 As usual, the in-flight symptom was a rise in EGT on the affected ro= tor.=A0 Engine continued to run normally.=A0=A0 Disabling the not-affected = coil set (trailing in this case) caused the rotor to drop out during the ne= xt pre-flight engine checks.
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Tracy


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