X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-qy0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5432439 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 13:44:42 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.180; envelope-from=wrjjrs@gmail.com Received: by qcsd15 with SMTP id d15so3537730qcs.25 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:44:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=BYSKPawr/Aj6oyzv/E44Syw4jHjKlsbhATGDnbgMFtA=; b=XrEAw1YrZQAw4MQzPOchbNGeJed3yaBqhyBFK7YGpLkrwZm1LHO0uAFlPKt9lhhrvr P27Ef0aXBbPYw7PzumDprRl25KnLnkCcMQhZ/vhzNC9ZtyX09bK/w13/hu3VEsExbAoC 8kJgpmV6hi5qtQHpjEWQQWUvRDCNYQjvzccsSvKhClE/zuxp1dOKt/7Kse3XjogGuMw2 B9Sc9fXMGjOfizZ4nI6PEqFUqta5lQeUHPBrEwvEJkMaDvescIuTvW220eoyT0xy93K6 lwWef/8shU8wQqpADszLtm+rukvFg6oPwd8wkQeY6L5CPkJ+cnMpo2GAKSes7LZlTdty pZ3g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.78.159 with SMTP id l31mr685066qck.114.1331145848289; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:44:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.100.73 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.100.73 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:44:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:44:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Radiators From: William Jepson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023544719306e793704baab8bc3 --0023544719306e793704baab8bc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gordon, the oil cooling required in a rotary is higher than a standard I.c.e. The oil cooling is about 1/3 of the total cooling. There are lots of "rules of thumb" on cooling. Typically about 3 ci of heat exchanger per hp. That would be divided 2/3 water and 1/3 oil cooling. Ducting changes things dramatically but that is a start. Bill Jepson On Mar 7, 2012 7:20 AM, "Gordon Alling" wrote: > I=92m thinking about radiators for my 13B Defiant. I=92ve noted some > automotive radiators integrate oil and transmission fluid cooling with th= e > engine coolant heat exchanger. Has anyone looked at these as a means of > integrating the oil and water cooler for an aircraft application? Does > anyone have an estimate of the oil and transmission heat load in a typica= l > GMC 4.3 L Jimmy?**** > > ** ** > > Gordon C. Alling, Jr., PE**** > > President**** > > *acumen* *Engineering/Analysis, Inc.***** > > ** ** > > 540-786-2200**** > > www.acumen-ea.com**** > > ** ** > --0023544719306e793704baab8bc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gordon, the oil cooling required in a rotary is higher than a standard I= .c.e. The oil cooling is about 1/3 of the total cooling. There are lots of = "rules of thumb" on cooling. Typically about 3 ci of heat exchang= er per hp. That would be divided 2/3 water and 1/3 oil cooling. Ducting cha= nges things dramatically but that is a start.
Bill Jepson

On Mar 7, 2012 7:20 AM, "Gordon Alling"= ; <gordon@acumen-ea.com> = wrote:

I=92m thinking = about radiators for my 13B Defiant.=A0 I=92ve noted some autom= otive radiators integrate oil and transmission fluid cooling with the engin= e coolant heat exchanger.=A0 Has anyone looked at these as a m= eans of integrating the oil and water cooler for an aircraft application?=A0 Does anyone have an estimate of the oil and transmission hea= t load in a typical GMC 4.3 L =A0Jimmy?

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Gordon C. Alling, Jr., PE=

President

acumen Engineering/Analysis, Inc.<= /i>

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540-786-2200=

www.acumen-ea.com

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