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Here is an interesting study of gear oils:
 
_http://www.synthetic-oil-tech.com/Gear%20Lube%20White%20Paper.pdf_ 
(http://www.synthetic-oil-tech.com/Gear%20Lube%20White%20Paper.pdf) 
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
 
In a message dated 3/3/2012 1:37:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cbarber@texasattorney.net writes:

Like John, I broke in with Dino Oil, but then I filled it with Royal Purple 
 50. (pretty bottle...good basis for my choice, huh...Ok, I hear good  
things about it too) 
I  think Mazdatrix recommends against  synthetic, however, I believe there 
reason is that the synthetic does not  burn, or burn well, when being used 
to lube the apex seal when using oil  injection from the oil pan.  However, 
in most aviation uses, we are  adding two stroke oil to the fuel, thus not an 
issue for us. So, it may be a  nice improvement to run the "better" 
synthetic stuff. 
Also, IIRC, the conventional wisdom is to run the  cheapest 2 stroke oil in 
the fuel since it is enough to do the job and it is  just burning off 
anyway.  I have heard of good prices by the gallon at  Wall-Mart (of course I 
never think of it until I need it and the buy whatever  is convenient at the 
parts store....) 
Chris 
  
____________________________________
  
From: Rotary motors in aircraft  [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of 
John Slade  [jslade@canardaviation.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:06  PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:  Thermostats.


Mobil 1 10W30 after break-in with dino oil

On 3/3/2012 10:46 AM,  Gordon Alling wrote:  
 
All, 
What is  everyone using for oil in their 13Bs?  It appears that the  shop 
manual specifies 10W30 or 5W30 (for cold weather).   Are people flying 
regular motor oil or are you all flying aviation  oil (aeroshell, or equivalent)? 
 
Gordon C.  Alling, Jr., PE 
President 
acumen Engineering/Analysis, Inc. 
540-786-2200 
_www.acumen-ea.com_ (http://www.acumen-ea.com/) 
 
 
From:  Rotary motors in aircraft [_mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net_ 
(mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net) ] On Behalf Of _Lehanover@aol.com_ 
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:23  PM
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Subject:  [FlyRotary] Re:  Thermostats.


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<DIV>Here is an interesting study of gear oils:</DIV>
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