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[98.197.231.39]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id li19sm10570030pbb.17.2012.02.26.11.51.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:51:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F4A8D27.4040908@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:51:03 -0600 From: Dave User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Thermostats. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2/26/2012 11:29 AM, Chris Barber wrote: > I have been searching the archives but to scant successes regarding thermostats use or lack of use for cooling. > > I have been having issue with cooling lately. I use to be able to idle on the ramp for over an hour in the middle of a Houston summer with adequate cooling. However, lately temps are rising faster and higher. > > Yesterday, while troubleshooting this issue I noted that after about a ten minute taxi that the mounting location of my coolant temp probes was reading about 220 degrees measured with a handheld thermo gage, close to what was being indicated on the panel However, the top of the radiator was cool to the touch. The handheld thermo gage read 45 degrees. Ok. Seems to be a flow/thermostat/pump issue. I will be Looking into this ASAP. > > This got me to think about thermostat usage. I have one. I know some do not use them. > > It is my understanding that if you remove the thermostat you have to close some passage off. What passage is this and why does this need to be done. Also, what is the accepted method. > > While researching I also saw discussion on restrictive plates. While I am not considering a restrictive plate, the thread discussed drilling holes in the thermostat itself. Lynn mentioned do it caught my interest. > > It seems this is something I use to know but now forget where I saw it. I just finished reviewing my partial scan of Tracy's conversion manual to no avail and my archive search is giving me hundreds of returns. > > Thanks, > > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > The first engine we built had no thermostat, and had "that" port plugged. The thermostat is essentially a Y valve... When cold, it is closed, and water is diverted through a bypass hole back to the engine. When warm it opens, diverting water from the bypass channel and sending it through the radiator. Of course this is a gradual change from one position to the other, as a result of thermal expansion. If you believe your instrumentation is correct now, and was correct then, with regards to temperatures and your idle ability, then what has changed? Has the thermostat failed or become plugged? Has airflow over the radiator changed? Is this the same radiator you saw the long low temp idles with? (I bought that dual pass cross over radiator for a specific reason - to put a cooling fan on one small part of the rad, allowing forced airflow to cool ALL of the coolant as it passed through one of the pass channels - if you replaced the radiator was it a dual-pass as well?) Using the dual pass rad with a fan only over 1/4 of the rad surface would provide a large surface for ram air cooling at speed while still permitting very effective fan-forced cooling on the ground and at idle. Dave Staten