X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mx2.netapp.com ([216.240.18.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with ESMTPS id 5367222 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:20:35 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.240.18.37; envelope-from=echristley@att.net X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,581,1320652800"; d="scan'208";a="620288965" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2012 10:19:58 -0800 Received: from [10.62.16.167] (ernestc-laptop.hq.netapp.com [10.62.16.167]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id q0RIJvTg004356 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:19:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F22EA31.4090503@att.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:17:21 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@att.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: engine exhaust References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rogers, Bob J. wrote: > If you add another turbo to capture the remaining exhaust gas, the > compressor portion will generate compressed air, which can be directed > to flow over an oil cooler or a radiator, but the air will be much > hotter than the outside air available for cooling. When the air is > compressed, it is heated by as much as 100 degrees. The temperature > rise is a function of the amount of compression. That is why you need > an intercooler before such air is routed to an engine intake for > combustion. I doubt that the air from a compressor stage of the turbo > would be cool enough to help reduce the water or oil temperature very > much (if at all) and the volume of air would not be significant compared > to the volume of air available in the free stream of outside air. Plus > you have the added weight of the turbo to deal with. In short, it would > not work. > That setup wouldn't. The compressor will also generate a vacuum, though. Put it behind the rad to increase the dP and you allow for a thicker rad. You can then duct it so that you pull cooling air from a detrimental high pressure point on the airframe...one of those points that slow the plane down. You'll definitely need a larger compressor, and you'll have to watch for exhaust back pressure, so an OTS solution is probably out of the question, unless you can frankenstein the front end from a large diesel onto a 13B sized backend.