X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com ([74.125.82.50] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with ESMTPS id 5352670 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:53:32 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.82.50; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by wgbgn7 with SMTP id gn7so1955889wgb.7 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:52:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=r+ixYfpk5KSYwBYqDfkj/P9UVTJLsY5NOn5EwqBoKzE=; b=hS3gzfjUTA57TDNTqofhTP96WYkixMMBenkW8+Xgd+uBeSP9jlf1ep0GjUSdz1qmiF 58Dnrxic2HFKCh6Ef7aU/PePFFXj4M/D39RjtmuKUOvE965dsk8/IwSx7VDly3c6hqGw NM+vnkpajTOJVbnpGm7MARqWk+lkjUYOI2c1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.14.161 with SMTP id q1mr18771163wic.1.1326757977541; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.105.211 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:52:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:52:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: tuning advice From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04138a67f44d9f04b6ade9a6 --f46d04138a67f44d9f04b6ade9a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lynn, I know this is an old posting, but I save all of your posts for future reference. I was wondering if you could you comment on the amount of advance appropriate for a p-port engine? What is the max advance I should run with 100LL? Do the numbers you quoted below apply the same to p-ports as to side port engines? As it relates to a p-port engine, what MAP readings should I get at idle (1800-2000 rpm)? Thanks, Mark On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:10 AM, wrote: > ** > Never at any throttle setting above idle. For closed throttle or coast > conditions up to 44 degrees is fine because there is little fuel or air > being processed and high vacuum, so burn rates are very slow. Helps prevent > popping and banging on long coast, and in the car helps keep the cat temps > up, and best of all reduces HC so you can buy one in California. For > anything involving power then 27 degrees for higher octanes and 22 to 24 > for low octanes. > > Lynn E. Hanover > > > In a message dated 5/15/2011 6:56:10 P.M. Paraguay Standard Time, > echristley@nc.rr.com writes: > > Lynn, is there ever a need for the spark advance to go past 30? This is a > graph of a couple of the short runs I was making today. The advance goes > up to 33.2, but it went as high as the mid 40's. It is so erratic, because > it is hitting up against the rev limiter which I had set to 3600RPM. It > uses a fuel cut algorithm, which is why it is so choppy. > > I need to get it running with less throttle, so I don't have to have it > open 35%, then I can get a cleaner graph...but I'm just wondering if I need > to beat back that advance first. > > > --f46d04138a67f44d9f04b6ade9a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lynn,=A0

I know this is an old posting, but I save all o= f your posts for future reference. =A0I was wondering if you could you comm= ent on the amount of advance appropriate for a p-port engine? =A0What is th= e max advance I should run with 100LL? =A0Do the numbers you quoted below a= pply the same to p-ports as to side port engines?=A0

As it relates to a p-port engine, what MAP readings sho= uld I get at idle (1800-2000 rpm)?=A0

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:10 = AM, <Lehanover@a= ol.com> wrote:
Never at any throttle setting above idle. For closed throttle or coast= =20 conditions up to 44 degrees is fine because there is little fuel or air bei= ng=20 processed and high vacuum, so burn rates are very slow. Helps prevent poppi= ng=20 and banging on long coast, and in the car helps keep the cat temps up, and = best=20 of all reduces HC so you can buy one in California. For anything involving = power=20 then 27 degrees for higher octanes and 22 to 24 for low octanes.
=A0
Lynn E. Hanover
=A0
=A0
In a message dated 5/15/2011 6:56:10 P.M. Paraguay Standard Time,=20 echristley@nc.rr.= com writes:
Lynn, is there ever a need for the = spark advance to go past 30?=A0=20 This is a graph of a couple of the short runs I was making today.=A0 The= =20 advance goes up to 33.2, but it went as high as the mid 40's.=A0 It i= s so=20 erratic, because it is hitting up against the rev limiter which I had set= to=20 3600RPM. It uses a fuel cut algorithm, which is why it is so choppy.
<= br>I=20 need to get it running with less throttle, so I don't have to have it= open=20 35%, then I can get a cleaner graph...but I'm just wondering if I nee= d to beat=20 back that advance=20 first.



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