X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.105] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with ESMTP id 5351553 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:55:58 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.105; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-98-85-146-162.mco.bellsouth.net[98.85.146.162]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20120116025521H05005t23he>; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:55:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.85.146.162] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Some assistance please! Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:55:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01CCD3D0.6146CCF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AczT8J5mX+C9Iwf3ROKrndZnRscuMwACAxPw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CCD3D0.6146CCF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to charge the batteries yesterday (2 of them) thinking that they would be down after sitting for 6 months. They were both fully charged! The battery voltage was about 12.6V per the EM-2 when I did the start. The voltage rose to 14.5 V when I turned the alternator on. I will check grounds tomorrow. I also want to make certain that the fuel pressure is the gage and not the fuel filter. Turning on both EFI pumps brought the pressure up to 45 psi. but I never got the previously set pressure with only one pump on. I suspect the O2 sensor has crapped out. I need to know what reading you get when that happens. Mine has maxed out on the graph. I have run the engine maybe 40 hours? I have about 25 flight hours on it and have never had anything but non ethanol Mogas in it. It should still be good, but??? Bill B _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of bktrub@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:45 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Some assistance please! I'd say it's almost 100% electrical, probably more than one thing. Check your charging voltage and battery voltage, and especially check all the grounds from your EM2 and EC2. I had an iffy ground on my EM2- it was not tightened and I was getting readings all over the map(no pun intended) Brian Trubee -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bradburry To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sun, Jan 15, 2012 3:25 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Some assistance please! I have had to let my plane set in the hangar for about 6 months due to some family problems. Today I pulled it out and cranked it up with the intention of making a flight. I encountered several problems. 1. the mixture graph on the EM-2 rose to the top and stayed there. The engine would respond to changes in the mixture knob on the EC-2, but not the graph. I suspect that the O2 sensor has failed. Is this max out of the graph a symptom of O2 failure? 2. the oil pressure was fluctuating rapidly between 20 and 70 for quite some time after the start. Could this be just the fact that all the oil had drained during the shut down? I had checked the oil level yesterday and it was down about a half quart, so plenty of oil. It seemed to settle down somewhat after the plane warmed up. OAT was 68 F. 3. the fuel pressure was also fluctuating between the teens and 45. I don't know what the real pressure was but plan to try and check it with a mechanical gage tomorrow. 4. oh and the strobe quit working as well. When I turned the master on to check fuel level, I noticed the strobe didn't work. I flipped the switch a couple of times and the strobe made about 6 or 7 strobes, then quit for good. Maybe all these things are related? Bill B ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CCD3D0.6146CCF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I tried to charge the batteries = yesterday (2 of them) thinking that they would be down after sitting for 6 = months.  They were both fully charged!  The battery voltage was about 12.6V per = the EM-2 when I did the start.  The voltage rose to 14.5 V when I turned the alternator on.

 

I will check grounds = tomorrow.  I also want to make certain that the fuel pressure is the gage and not the fuel filter.  Turning on both EFI pumps brought the pressure up to 45 = psi.  but I never got the previously set pressure with only one pump = on.

 

I suspect the O2 sensor has crapped out.  I need to know what reading you get when that happens.  = Mine has maxed out on the graph.  I have run the engine  maybe 40 = hours?  I have about 25 flight hours on it and have never had anything but non = ethanol Mogas in it.  It should still be good, = but???

 

Bill B

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of bktrub@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, = 2012 8:45 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Some assistance please!

 

I'd say it's almost 100% = electrical, probably more than one thing. Check your charging voltage and battery = voltage, and especially check all the grounds from your EM2 and EC2. I had an = iffy ground on my EM2- it was not tightened and I was getting readings all = over the map(no pun intended)

 

=

Brian Trubee

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Jan 15, 2012 3:25 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Some assistance = please!

I have had to let my plane set in = the hangar for about 6 months due to some family problems.  Today I = pulled it out and cranked it up with the intention of making a = flight.

I encountered several = problems.

 

  1. the mixture graph on = the EM-2 rose to the top and stayed there.  The engine would respond to changes in the mixture knob on the EC-2, but not the graph.  I suspect that the O2 sensor has failed.  Is this max out of the = graph a symptom of O2 failure?
  2. the oil pressure was fluctuating rapidly between 20 and 70 for quite some time after the start.  Could this be just the fact that all the oil had = drained during the shut down?  I had checked the oil level yesterday = and it was down about a half quart, so plenty of oil.  It seemed to = settle down somewhat after the plane warmed up.  OAT was 68 F.  =
  3. the fuel pressure was = also fluctuating between the teens and 45.  I don’t know what = the real pressure was but plan to try and check it with a mechanical = gage tomorrow.
  4. oh and the strobe quit = working as well.  When I turned the master on to check fuel level, I = noticed the strobe didn’t work.  I flipped the switch a couple = of times and the strobe made about 6 or 7 strobes, then quit for = good.

 

 

 

 

Maybe all these things are = related?

 

Bill B

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