X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5163589 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:35:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.41; envelope-from=CozyGirrrl@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p9KDYWMQ011405 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:34:32 -0400 Received: from core-dse001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.227.193]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1F938E000099 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:34:31 -0400 (EDT) From: CozyGirrrl@aol.com Message-ID: <76026.2e4191d0.3bd17d66@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live. To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_76026.2e4191d0.3bd17d66_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [69.151.10.253] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/75429 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:451232640:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 3 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c84ea02367735b --part1_76026.2e4191d0.3bd17d66_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_76026.2e4191d0.3bd17d66_rel_boundary" --part1_76026.2e4191d0.3bd17d66_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="76026.2e4191d0_alt_bound" --76026.2e4191d0_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en So Ed, you are saying a glider rating is essential? =3D) =20 Chrissi & Randi _www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/)=20 CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop In a message dated 10/12/2011 12:45:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, =20 eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes: Well, Chris, =20 Some of us get notoriety because of time in unpowered flight - others for= =20 their teething problems - want to swap? {:>) =20 Ed =20 From: _Chris Barber_ (mailto:cbarber@texasattorney.net) =20 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:10 PM To: _Rotary motors in aircraft_ (mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net) =20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live. Teething problems.....I resemble that remark....=20 Chris Barber=20 Houston=20 91 turbo 13b=20 Velocity SE=20 =20 ____________________________________ =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of= =20 Ed Anderson [eanderson@carolina.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:59 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live. Hi Jeff, =20 590 hours in 12 years. However, I have only flow a few hours in the last= =20 3 years, mainly to Sun & Fun and other Flyins. Just got too busy with=20 other things (my small business in electronics is growing) =20 I have a 1987 Turbo 13B sitting in my shop as well as various parts such= =20 as an extra e shaft, ignition modules, CAS, etc. =20 The only information I have ever seen on TBO of a rotary in aircraft use= =20 was done by a German University for the Wankle institution - and they=20 estimate 4000 hour TBO. Since I would have been happy with 1000 hours - I= have=20 not worried about it. Tracy did some measurements at around the 800 hour= =20 point on his original junk yard 13B and found hardly any wear on the parts= =20 designed to wear (like apex seals). So it appears once you have your engi= ne=20 set up and past the teething problems you can expect a long run time. =20 Ed From: _Jeff Whaley_ (mailto:jwhaley@datacast.com) =20 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:48 PM To: _Rotary motors in aircraft_ (mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net) =20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live. Hey Ed, how many hours do you have now, in how many years - 500 hrs in 10= =20 years, something like that?=20 What is the likely TBO in your configuration and flight profile - 1000,= =20 1500?=20 How many useable spare core parts do you have sitting on the shelf?=20 We had all better keep our existing engines alive and stop dreaming about= =20 16X=E2=80=99s =E2=80=A6 frankly I=E2=80=99m surprised Mazda has toughed it = out with the rotary=20 this long.=20 Happily flying mine these days, approaching 60 hours =E2=80=A6=20 Jeff=20 From: =20 "Ed Anderson" =20 Subject: =20 Re: [FlyRotary] The rotary may live. =20 Date: =20 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:55:51 -0400 =20 To: =20 "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 (http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/56882-H.txt)=20 (http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/56882-P.txt) =20 Thanks, Sam=20 One can only hope it will be in the not so distant future.=20 Ed=20 Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 _http://www.andersonee.com_ (http://www.andersonee.com/)=20 _http://www.eicommander.com_ (http://www.eicommander.com/) =20 This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the= =20 addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any=20 unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this= =20 message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our= =20 internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you.=20 --76026.2e4191d0_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
So Ed, you are saying a glider rating is essential? =3D)
 
Chrissi &=20 Randi
www.CozyGirrrl.com
C= G=20 Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop=
 
In a message dated 10/12/2011 12:45:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:
Well, Chris,
 
Some of us get notoriety because of time in unpow= ered=20 flight - others for their teething problems - want to swap?=20 {:>)
 
Ed

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:10 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

Teething problems.....I resemble that remark....

 

Chris Barber

Houston

91 turbo 13b

Velocity SE

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net] on=20 behalf of Ed Anderson [eanderson@carolina.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesd= ay,=20 October 12, 2011 11:59 AM
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may=20 live.

Hi Jeff,
 
590 hours  in 12 years.  However, I hav= e only=20 flow a few hours in the last 3 years, mainly to  Sun & Fun and o= ther=20 Flyins.  Just got too busy with other things (my small business in= =20 electronics is growing)
 = ;
I have a 198= 7 Turbo 13B=20 sitting in my shop as well as various parts such as an extra e shaft, ign= ition=20 modules, CAS, etc.
 = ;
The only inf= ormation I=20 have ever seen on TBO of a rotary in aircraft use was done by a German=20 University for the Wankle institution - and they estimate 4000 hour TBO.&= nbsp;=20 Since I would have been happy with 1000 hours - I have not worried about= =20 it.  Tracy did some measurements at around the 800 hour point on his= =20 original junk yard 13B and found hardly any wear on the parts designed to= wear=20 (like apex seals).  So it appears once you have your engine set up a= nd=20 past the teething problems you can expect a long run time.
 = ;
Ed

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:48 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

Hey Ed, how many hours do you have now, in how many = years -=20  500 hrs in 10 years, something like that?

What is the likely TBO in your configuration and fli= ght=20 profile -  1000, 1500?

How many useable spare core parts do you have sittin= g on=20 the shelf?

We had all better keep our existing engines alive an= d stop=20 dreaming about 16X=E2=80=99s =E2=80=A6 frankly I=E2=80=99m surprised Mazd= a has toughed it out with the=20 rotary this long.

Happily flying mine these days, approaching 60 hours= =E2=80=A6

Jeff

 

 

From:

"Ed=20 Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>

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Subject:

Re:=20 [FlyRotary] The rotary may live.

Date:

Tue,=20 11 Oct 2011 23:55:51 -0400

To:

"Rotary=20 motors in aircraft"=20 <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

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Thanks,=20 Sam

 

One can only=20 hope it will be in the not so distant future.

 

Ed

 

Edward L.=20 Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton=20 Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.c= om
http://www.eicommander.com<= /A>

 

This message, and the documents atta= ched=20 hereto, is intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged or= =20 confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibi= ted.=20 If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately = so=20 that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original= =20 message. Thank you.=20
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