X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [64.129.170.194] (HELO VIRCOM1.fcdata.private) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5154819 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:11:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::697f:d6aa:b87:78d8]) by FCD-MAIL05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::809d:a06e:5913:452e%13]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:10:31 -0500 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live. Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live. Thread-Index: AQHMiQCDkkRRRkwnXEaKaPCHjPFy2pV48T5i Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:10:37 +0000 Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30B5258A20@FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [99.98.105.202] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_005_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30B5258A20FCDMAIL06FCDATA_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_005_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30B5258A20FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30B5258A20FCDMAIL06FCDATA_" --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30B5258A20FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Teething problems.....I resemble that remark.... Chris Barber Houston 91 turbo 13b Velocity SE ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = Ed Anderson [eanderson@carolina.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:59 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live. Hi Jeff, 590 hours in 12 years. However, I have only flow a few hours in the last = 3 years, mainly to Sun & Fun and other Flyins. Just got too busy with oth= er things (my small business in electronics is growing) I have a 1987 Turbo 13B sitting in my shop as well as various parts such as= an extra e shaft, ignition modules, CAS, etc. The only information I have ever seen on TBO of a rotary in aircraft use wa= s done by a German University for the Wankle institution - and they estimat= e 4000 hour TBO. Since I would have been happy with 1000 hours - I have no= t worried about it. Tracy did some measurements at around the 800 hour poi= nt on his original junk yard 13B and found hardly any wear on the parts des= igned to wear (like apex seals). So it appears once you have your engine s= et up and past the teething problems you can expect a long run time. Ed From: Jeff Whaley Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:48 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live. Hey Ed, how many hours do you have now, in how many years - 500 hrs in 10 = years, something like that? What is the likely TBO in your configuration and flight profile - 1000, 15= 00? How many useable spare core parts do you have sitting on the shelf? We had all better keep our existing engines alive and stop dreaming about 1= 6X=92s =85 frankly I=92m surprised Mazda has toughed it out with the rotary= this long. Happily flying mine these days, approaching 60 hours =85 Jeff From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] The rotary may live. Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:55:51 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" [Message Header] [Undecoded Message] Thanks, Sam One can only hope it will be in the not so distant future. Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the a= ddressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauth= orized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message= in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal= records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30B5258A20FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Teething problems.....I resemble that remark....

 

Chris Barber

Houston

91 turbo 13b

Velocity SE

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary= @lancaironline.net] on behalf of Ed Anderson [eanderson@carolina.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:59 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

Hi Jeff,
 
590 hours  in 12 years.  However, I hav= e only flow a few hours in the last 3 years, mainly to  Sun & Fun = and other Flyins.  Just got too busy with other things (my small busin= ess in electronics is growing)
&nb= sp;
I have a 1= 987 Turbo 13B sitting in my shop as well as various parts such as an extra = e shaft, ignition modules, CAS, etc.
&nb= sp;
The only i= nformation I have ever seen on TBO of a rotary in aircraft use was done by = a German University for the Wankle institution - and they estimate 4000 hou= r TBO.  Since I would have been happy with 1000 hours - I have not worried about it.  Tracy did some measur= ements at around the 800 hour point on his original junk yard 13B and found= hardly any wear on the parts designed to wear (like apex seals).  So = it appears once you have your engine set up and past the teething problems you can expect a long run time.
&nb= sp;
Ed<= /div>

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:48 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

Hey Ed, how many hours do you have now, in how many = years -  500 hrs in 10 years, something like that?

What is the likely TBO in your configuration and fli= ght profile -  1000, 1500?

How many useable spare core parts do you have sittin= g on the shelf?

We had all better keep our existing engines alive an= d stop dreaming about 16X=92s =85 frankly I=92m surprised Mazda has toughed= it out with the rotary this long.

Happily flying mine these days, approaching 60 hours= =85

Jeff

 

 

From:

"Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>

Subject:

Re: [FlyRotary] The rotary may live.

Date:

Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:55:51 -0400

To:

"Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancair= online.net>

3D"Message 

Thanks, Sam

 

One can only hope it will be in the not so distant future.

 

Ed

 

Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.= eicommander.com

 

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