X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-iy0-f180.google.com ([209.85.210.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTPS id 5149858 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:39:54 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.180; envelope-from=fluffysheap@gmail.com Received: by iakc1 with SMTP id c1so1376761iak.25 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:39:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ddf6C0SbEJXyx1YelDUe7uLZmV0ayZk7dB+veHWI1ac=; b=oxUTI5fS8BR14KK95WJICcZXEYsfPHoAcx0z7r9PdM/lPQqbB1fbF9ZrI0KdbYfiHq Ud21srsC6nRexFPo3GlMORdyqdZ0TC9gIYgEzb9ufy8e082+CbkYuUvmKKvwBcLtdKTN 6so+Yi74DVDYzFT8HMMzA145FFaGlJ54YhMfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.0.133 with SMTP id 5mr4256124ibb.22.1318027159072; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.17.201 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:39:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:39:19 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: No more RX's from Mazda after 2101 From: William Wilson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015177407b89ef13904aebd1c7b --0015177407b89ef13904aebd1c7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This isn't really new information. Rotarynews.com had this information a couple of months ago, although not the exact end date. Mazda would like to resume/continue production, but needs their new fuel economy initiative to pay off in the 3 and 6 to get the company back to profitability before they can afford further rotary engine work. The RX-8 has been in production more or less unchanged for 8 years, which is a very long time. Sales are at low levels and still falling and Mazda cannot afford to redesign the model or a new RX-7, knowing that the fuel economy would likely still be terrible with the existing 13B Renesis. I'm not sure why the 16X has taken so long and still isn't ready - Mazda designed a new rotary engine every couple of years back in the 70s - but I can't really argue that they should continue with the 13B Renesis in the RX-8. They are making the right decision here. The real problem is that once you stop and lose momentum it's very hard to get started again. There's a very real risk that they will simply never resume production, no matter what happens with their piston-powered cars. It also means that in 10 years or so, Renesis parts availability will be in the same sad state as traditional 13B parts availability is now. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: > ** > Well, I guess that means the piggy bank that has been accumulating $$ for > my 16X installation - will have to be broken into for other toys. > Disappointing for sure - this was the model I thought was essentially ideal > for an alternative engine in my RV-6A. Not to be {:>( > > Ed > > Edward L. Anderson > Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC > 305 Reefton Road > Weddington, NC 28104 > http://www.andersonee.com > http://www.eicommander.com > > *From:* CozyGirrrl@aol.com > *Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2011 3:29 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] No more RX's from Mazda after 2101 > > > > http://www.ajc.com/business/mazda-to-stop-making-1196172.html#.To7_-hUF57Y.email > > Now what? > --0015177407b89ef13904aebd1c7b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This isn't really new information.=A0 Rotarynews.com had this informati= on a couple of months ago, although not the exact end date.=A0 Mazda would = like to resume/continue production, but needs their new fuel economy initia= tive to pay off in the 3 and 6 to get the company back to profitability bef= ore they can afford further rotary engine work.

The RX-8 has been in production more or less unchanged for 8 years, whi= ch is a very long time.=A0 Sales are at low levels and still falling and Ma= zda cannot afford to redesign the model or a new RX-7, knowing that the fue= l economy would likely still be terrible with the existing 13B Renesis.=A0 = I'm not sure why the 16X has taken so long and still isn't ready - = Mazda designed a new rotary engine every couple of years back in the 70s - = but I can't really argue that they should continue with the 13B Renesis= in the RX-8.=A0 They are making the right decision here.

The real problem is that once you stop and lose momentum it's very = hard to get started again.=A0 There's a very real risk that they will s= imply never resume production, no matter what happens with their piston-pow= ered cars.

It also means that in 10 years or so, Renesis parts availability will b= e in the same sad state as traditional 13B parts availability is now.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@= carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Well, I guess that means the piggy bank that has been= =20 accumulating $$ for my 16X installation - will have to be broken into for o= ther=20 toys.=A0 Disappointing for sure - this was the model I thought was=20 essentially ideal for an alternative engine in my RV-6A.=A0 Not to be=20 {:>(
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Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises= =20 LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com

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