X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5099444 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 02:01:41 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.147; envelope-from=Lehanover@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p7M611Ch006545 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 02:01:01 -0400 Received: from core-mod003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.9]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0911CE000081 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 02:01:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Lehanover@aol.com Message-ID: <2014d.7e64104c.3b834a9c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 02:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: oil premix data; info request To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2014d.7e64104c.3b834a9c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-AOL-IP: 173.88.22.222 X-Originating-IP: [173.88.22.222] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:414408544:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc4e51f09d0bdd --part1_2014d.7e64104c.3b834a9c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I missed this one. You probably mean 9 GPM. That is plenty and the bigger filters can do that with ease. Look at the little stock filter can from Mazda. Looks like a toy. The one K&N on a remote mount is fine as well. I run two on a mount because the engine builder wanted 16 GPM but that is for over 9,000 RPM with larger than even racing bearing clearances. Plus we use a big Moroso pump and 100 PSI. I would not use the stock filter, and never a Fram. Cut open an example of a K&N and a Fram and lay out and measure the paper element material. Note the construction materials. Note the springs. Note the thickness of the can material. Note the surface area provided. The more paper (Filter people call it Media) the lower the pressure drop across the element. The remote mount can be improved dramatically with a die grinder and a ball bit. Smooth everything involved in oil flow. Contour the ends of all fittings in the oiling system. Use sweep 90s instead of drilled 90s where possible. A drilled 90 has the same drag as 3 feet of hose. You must assume that any oil cooler you came up with (even a new one) and any hose you had made up, has scrap metal in it or assembly grease or rubber scraps. (flappers) The filter must be between that cooler or hose and the engine bearings. Lynn E. Hanover In a message dated 8/20/2011 1:25:20 P.M. Paraguay Standard Time, dale.rog@gmail.com writes: My question would a single NAPA 1515 or K&N filter flowing 9 gph put the restriction I am trying to eliminate back in..........?? Kelly Troyer --part1_2014d.7e64104c.3b834a9c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry, I missed this one.

You probably mean 9 GPM. That is plenty and the bigger filters can do = that=20 with ease. Look at the little stock filter can from Mazda. Looks like a toy= . The=20 one K&N on a remote mount is fine as well. I run two on a mount because= the=20 engine builder wanted 16 GPM but that is for over 9,000 RPM with larger tha= n=20 even racing bearing clearances. Plus we use a big Moroso pump and 100 = PSI.=20 I would not use the stock filter, and never a Fram. Cut open an example of = a=20 K&N and a Fram and lay out and measure the paper element material. Note= the=20 construction materials. Note the springs. Note the thickness of the can=20 material.

Note the surface area provided. The more paper (Filter people call it= =20 Media) the lower the pressure drop across the element.

The remote mount can be improved dramatically with a die grinder and a= ball=20 bit. Smooth everything involved in oil flow. Contour the ends of all fittin= gs in=20 the oiling system. Use sweep 90s instead of drilled 90s where possible. A= =20 drilled 90 has the same drag as 3 feet of hose.

You must assume that any oil cooler you came up with (even a new one) = and=20 any hose you had made up, has scrap metal in it or assembly grease or rubbe= r=20 scraps. (flappers) The filter must be between that cooler or hose and = the=20 engine bearings.

Lynn E. Hanover

In a message dated 8/20/2011 1:25:20 P.M. Paraguay Standard Time,=20 dale.rog@gmail.com writes:

My question would = a single=20 NAPA

1515 or K&N fi= lter=20 flowing 9 gph put the restriction I am trying to eliminate back= =20 in..........??

Kelly Troyer

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