X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com ([209.85.161.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5068714 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:17:51 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.52; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by fxd18 with SMTP id 18so3322301fxd.25 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:17:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KKSCH2ZYJbBG7xiPBEFfTH8k3CqpqX6WJW8RFY/Soxs=; b=knnoQn5jMuXueA5VaNPL8uHhb9aMZ1JmkwqlbIJDKDmHgYwXu93B62/SlV1llUsn3Q 2XKxRNDosU3P4hIOGxmUJwEXsjIoaLjPEzi8rMl4cgc23wyvQxp1+4UGo4OCBvGuwrYm DuzHuIAQd91bRt6We9RNIPoFpXnh7DhTvv20k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.140 with SMTP id z12mr3643598fau.147.1312046233122; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.72.14 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:17:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:17:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bddeca7762604a94c9188 --0023545bddeca7762604a94c9188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 John Slade has 120 hrs on his rotary installation. Mark S. - 200 hrs Ed A. - 590 hrs Tracy C. - 1850 (RV-4) + 56 (RV-8) 1906 hrs total David L. - Bobby H. - Dennis H. - John S. - 120 hrs others... TOTAL HRS - 2,816 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Tracy wrote: > Mark S. - 200 hrs > Ed A. - 590 hrs > Tracy C. - 1850 (RV-4) + 56 (RV-8) 1906 hrs total > David L. - > Bobby H. - > Dennis H. - > others... > > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: > >> So, how many hours do you have on your rotary now? Tracy, what's your >> total rotary flight hours? Just yesterday, someone was trying to label me >> as the "Rotary Guru" because I have almost 200 hours now. I quickly >> informed them that there are many others that are way ahead of me. Its been >> a while since we last tallied the total flight hours. So, if everyone >> flying wants to reply, I'll tally up the new total. >> >> Mark S. - 200 hrs >> Ed A. - >> Tracy C. - >> David L. - >> Bobby H. - >> Dennis H. - >> others... >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: >> >>> ** >>> You know, Mark, there are some things you just can't give away - because >>> nobody else wants them for some strange reason {:>) >>> >>> Ed >>> Edward L. Anderson >>> Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC >>> 305 Reefton Road >>> Weddington, NC 28104 >>> http://www.andersonee.com >>> http://www.eicommander.com >>> >>> *From:* Mark Steitle >>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:17 AM >>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing >>> >>> Ed, >>> >>> There's little chance of anyone else catching up to you anyway. You're >>> the HCH champ! >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> Ok, Mark, but that detracts 2 points from your "Hairy Chested Hero" >>>> credit {:>) >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> *From:* Mark Steitle >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2011 7:20 PM >>>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >>>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing >>>> >>>> >>>> Gee, two rotors to come home on doesn't provide much excitement, >>>> >>>> Ed, >>>> >>>> That's the whole point of going with a 3-rotor, that and MORE POWER!!! >>>> BWAAAAAHHHHH >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Ed Anderson >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gee, two rotors to come home on doesn't provide much excitement, Tracy. >>>>> >>>>> Sort of reminds me way back in the old days of using the Rx-7 ignition >>>>> coils and ballast resistors blowing on them. For some reason seems like >>>>> that only happened to you and me. >>>>> >>>>> We are all awaiting some performance numbers for that RV8-3R, so next >>>>> time take your bottle and give those Ls1 coils a real try out. >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------**-------------------- >>>>> From: "Tracy" >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:13 PM >>>>> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >>>>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Was finally getting around to doing hot weather cooling and altitude >>>>>> performance testing in the RV-8 yesterday. Cooling was good during a high >>>>>> power climb to 14500 ft where I leveled out ( I had forgotten to put the Ox >>>>>> bottle in the plane). Throttled up to WOT to see where the speed topped >>>>>> out at but. After less than a minute I felt some engine roughness and >>>>>> noticed rotor 3 EGT went above alarm threshold so I throttled back to low >>>>>> power. #3 EGT then went low off scale and I could tell that the engine was >>>>>> only running on 2 rotors. I then smelled a faint electrical burning smell >>>>>> that lasted about 2 minutes. Engine was surprisingly smooth for having a >>>>>> dead rotor and still had more than enough power for cruise flight but >>>>>> obviously it was time to get back on the ground and find out what went >>>>>> wrong. did all the usual diagnostics on the long glide down with no joy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Made normal landing, poped off the cowl and coil diagnostics test >>>>>> revealed that both coils on rotor 3 were dead. I had done the coil disable >>>>>> tests prior to takeoff so I know they were both good then. I'm using RX-8 >>>>>> coils and there have been too many failures for me to feel good about them >>>>>> any longer. I ordered a set of LS-1s to replace them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tracy >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:** >>>>>> 81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:** >>>>> 81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --0023545bddeca7762604a94c9188 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Slade has 120 hrs on his rotary installation.

Mark S. -=A0=A0=A0 200 hrs
Ed A. -=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 590 hrs
Tracy C. -=A0 18= 50 (RV-4) + 56 (RV-8)=A0 1906 hrs total=A0=A0=A0
David L. -=A0
Bobby H. -=A0
De= nnis H. -=A0
John S. - 120 hrs
others...
TOTAL HRS - 2,816


On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Tracy <rwstracy@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark S. -=A0=A0=A0 200 hrs
Ed A. -=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 590 hrs
Tracy C. -= =A0 1850 (RV-4) + 56 (RV-8)=A0 1906 hrs total=A0=A0
David L. -=A0
=
Bobby H. -=A0
Dennis H. -=A0
others...


On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
So, how many hours do you have on your rotary now? =A0Tracy, what's you= r total rotary flight hours? =A0Just yesterday, someone was trying to label= me as the "Rotary Guru" because I have almost 200 hours now. =A0= I quickly informed them that there are many others that are way ahead of me= . =A0Its been a while since we last tallied the total flight hours. =A0So, = if everyone flying wants to reply, I'll tally up the new total. =A0
Mark S. - 200 hrs
Ed A. -=A0
=
Tracy C. - =A0 =A0
David L. -=A0
= Bobby H. -=A0
Dennis H. -=A0
others...



On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.= rr.com> wrote:
You know, Mark, there are some things you just ca= n't give=20 away - because nobody else wants them for some strange=20 reason=A0{:>)
=A0
Ed
Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electro= nic=20 Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.comhttp://www.eicom= mander.com

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:17 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing

Ed,=A0=20

There's little chance of anyone else catching up to you anyway.=20 =A0You're the HCH champ!

Mark

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Ed Anderso= n <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>=20 wrote:
Ok, Mark, =A0but that detracts 2 points from yo= ur=20 "Hairy Chested Hero" credit {:>)
=A0
Ed

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Back to Phase 1 testing


Gee, two rotors to come home on d= oesn't provide much=20 excitement,

Ed,

That's the whole point of going with a=20 3-rotor, that and MORE POWER!!! =A0BWAAAAAHHHHH

Mark

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Ed Anderson <= span dir=3D"ltr"><eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Gee, two rotors to come home on doe= sn't provide much=20 excitement, Tracy.

Sort of reminds me way back in the old days o= f=20 using the Rx-7 ignition coils and ballast resistors blowing on them.=20 =A0For some reason seems like that only happened to you and me.

= We=20 are all awaiting some performance numbers for that RV8-3R, so next time= take=20 your bottle and give those Ls1 coils a real try=20 out.

Ed

------------------------------------------= --------
From:=20 "Tracy" <rwstracy@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:13=20 PM
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary]=20 Re: Back to Phase 1 testing=20


Was finally getting around to doi= ng hot weather cooling=20 and altitude performance testing in the RV-8 yesterday. =A0 Cooling w= as=20 good during a high power climb to 14500 ft where I leveled out ( I ha= d=20 forgotten to put the Ox bottle in the plane). =A0 Throttled up to WOT= =20 to see where the speed topped out at but. =A0 After less than a minut= e=20 I felt some engine roughness and noticed rotor 3 EGT went above alarm= =20 threshold so I throttled back to low power. =A0 #3 EGT then went low= =20 off scale and I could tell that the engine was only running on 2 roto= rs.=20 =A0 I then smelled a faint electrical burning smell that lasted about= 2=20 minutes. =A0 Engine was surprisingly smooth for having a dead rotor a= nd=20 still had more than enough power for cruise flight but obviously it w= as=20 time to get back on the ground and find out what went wrong. =A0 did= =20 all the usual diagnostics on the long glide down with no joy.

= Made=20 normal landing, poped off the cowl and coil diagnostics test revealed= that=20 both coils on rotor 3 were dead. =A0 I had done the coil disable test= s=20 prior to takeoff so I know they were both good then. =A0I'm using= RX-8=20 coils and there have been too many failures for me to feel good about= them=20 any longer. =A0 I ordered a set of LS-1s to replace=20 them.

Tracy
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Homepage: =A0http://www.flyrotary.com/
Archive and Un= Sub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html


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