X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm13.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.140] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with SMTP id 5061373 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:24:09 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.140; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.102] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2011 20:23:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.73] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2011 20:23:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2011 20:23:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 123314.16633.bm@omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 81299 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2011 20:23:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1311452615; bh=c0VmPrE/0HLIvrLF43696I9kbSQGNBC5PUWqSsb6nn4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CwgVGiPZM5J1wyKgkOv0jIr486FSps5Et/tYj8SYv55jlUiFV1Xf7Gbu5Y+CYKfizYsERT1NwhC0f8XeW1kJ6NdqiUjsKI/kFPAM9nPcztAG8UrQP35SRolBT4i600cX+Y0K++DtR3MmjcBwniM1eEtlfK/JIRN7lc/bUfHE5EA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pA9JzUnCuvAuJeh1Y+LDhZodKX6l0heNYMqgMjLa43baqW2FZhwXHKNjbP7RP88q4k1GUfyvzqar1tdSl39dQWi8dx36cr1mnLj8O2crSm4Yf0E2Jf8P3jVp1AH97Q9ER2RZy29TBrf4pseEgYIsYkTXZPOWQ3RTgVo5f7fzVW8=; X-YMail-OSG: UPcyldwVM1l19KFmCcWtxhgAjQ2GvafvF1L1gOv_Hx_AjjU xpE7XXB4kjzLiIaw0P0TBdHBKFuEdW_DmJERBr0FHYW35inLh1.WpqnDeP70 DeVdLB9thyeSAM8JOOsViWlUSe1S6ICsPdcmnqLfeTJKHoWOotzh.eJAJvai V7tw8b.Ahy0z.fK2adIUGF4PbQrHlThudXx7zMReImKbZgN1sVYqL4wRA2g2 CjFUHh0WY0XI7bI4HRMEGKL4nazZwtscoyzd0Z.AsQxJUAuOjpd5mZOQ4A8v R9imtW247EigMSyJvogILlZVMd2U6qK0ym92BuLVrS9pg1Ekg2mam262g5EM nos2vk9WWjhhYZ37ndlEB27ncou7SOwCtQOmOOVVLzzuPnJRpu2v3DOCDKuZ 81KL6ruuDlcffpkG9t3gZeikW Received: from [208.114.39.18] by web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:23:35 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 References: Message-ID: <1311452615.80554.YahooMailNeo@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Reply-To: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: Ok Here are the important flywheel measurements To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-225187885-1311452615=:80554" --0-225187885-1311452615=:80554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave,=0A=A0=A0 Forgot to say you are correct that the wide area washers use= d on backside of the flexplate=0Awill not=A0be necessary with the flywheel.= .............=0A=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTA= RY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURB= ONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0AFrom: Kelly Troyer =0ATo: Rotary= motors in aircraft =0ASent: Saturday, July 23= , 2011 3:16 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok Here are the important flywhee= l measurements=0A=0A=0ADave,=0A=A0 Sounds like you have it under control...= .........Easy for me to say since it is your dollar =0Abut you might give s= ome thought while the flywheel is in the mill to having several holes=0A(lo= oks like maybe 1 inch or better after you measure) milled equidistant (to m= aintain=0Abalance)=A0around the pressure plate slip surface............If y= ou ever plan on doing this it=A0=0Awill never be any less expensive since y= ou will have already paid for setup time...... I=0Athink you could eliminat= e close to another 2 lbs off the flywheel............FWIW=A0=0A=0AKelly Tro= yer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2= /EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0AF= rom: David Leonard =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:56 PM=0ASubje= ct: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok Here are the important flywheel measurements=0A=0A= =0AHi Kelly, Yes, I have it and I took it out to the hangar yesterday.=A0 A= ll my preliminary measurements seem to be more or less accurate.=A0 Meaning= that I will have to shave a little off the face of the flywheel and/or the= spline of the damper plate.=A0 I also need to extend the starter about .37= inches to reach the ring gear.=A0 =0A=0AOn the back of the flywheel, the s= urface is flat in the locations of the holes and there is enough room to fi= t the nuts without any machine work, but if I want to use washers, I will n= eed to do some machine work there to fit the washers.=A0 with such a thick = steel plate, washers probably would not be necessary.=A0 =0A=0ASo my plans = are to machine down face of the flywheel like you suggest, so that the slip= surface is flush with the main part of the plate.=A0 I will have the mill = drill the holes (Tracy suggests that, and it makes sense).=A0 I will also m= ill 0.17 in off both the flange of the starter and into the adapter plate t= o make up the 0.37 inches to the flywheel ring gear.=A0 Final measurements = still pending on that starter distance, but it is pretty close.=0A=0A-- =0A= David Leonard=0A=0ATurbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY=0Ahttp://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net=0A= http://RotaryRoster.net=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Kelly Tro= yer wrote:=0A=0ADave do you have your flywheel yet and hav= e you come to any preliminary conclusions on mods=0A>necessary to make it a= nd the starter mate up ??..............=0A>=0A>=0A>Kelly Troyer=0A>"DYKE DE= LTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>"MIS= TRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>=0A>=0A>From:= Kelly Troyer =0A>To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 6:50 PM=0A>Subject: [Fl= yRotary] Re: Ok Here are the important flywheel measurements=0A>=0A>=0A>Dav= e,=0A>=A0=A0=A0 Clarification..............=0A>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =0A= >One more thing the 86-91 auto trans starter is the same as the=A0 Turbo st= arter.......Only difference =0A>I can see is the front Bendix hsg has a lit= tle more material machined of presumably to clear the =0A>curved trans conv= erter..............The mounting bolt spacing is also different and new hole= s would =0A>need to be drilled in the RD1X front plate...............=0A>= =A0=0A>=A0=A0 What I meant to say was "The 86-91 Auto trans=A0and Turbo sta= rter mount spacing is different than the 86-91 =0A>manual trans starter tha= t Tracy calls out for=A0the RD1X re-drive and requires new mounting holes d= rilled".........=A0=0A>=0A>Kelly Troyer=0A>"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A= >"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Mani= fold=0A>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>=0A>=0A>From: Kelly Troyer =0A>To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>Se= nt: Thursday, July 21, 2011 4:34 PM=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok Here are= the important flywheel measurements=0A>=0A>=0A>Dave,=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=A0=A0 T= racy said in previous post about the spacer that front of the drive spline = hub can be machined =0A>off to provide clearance with front mount plate....= ....... I realize several measurements would have to =0A>be made to verify = hub positioning , input shaft spline engagement=A0, etc + starter engagemen= t to=0A>utilize a counterweight/flywheel spacer..............Also I know yo= u are under a time constraint in order=0A>..........=A0=0A>=A0 Have all the= parts available and do a bolt up to verify all dimensions...........Measur= e at least twice=0A>before cutting metal !!........................<:)=0A>= =0A>Kelly Troyer=0A>"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine= =0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A>"TURBONETICS"= _TO4E50 Turbo=0A>=0A>=0A>From: David Leonard =0A>To: R= otary motors in aircraft =0A>Sent: Thursday, J= uly 21, 2011 3:52 PM=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok Here are the important = flywheel measurements=0A>=0A>=0A>Thanks Kelly,=0A>I am not sure that I am i= nterested in using a spacer, because my measurements say=A0the flywheel wil= l put the damper plate a little too far=A0aft (in the car)=A0as it is.=A0 N= o good to fix one problem=A0and create=A0another.=A0 There is not really an= y room to move the damper plate closer to the gear box.=0A>=0A>My flex plat= e has not arrived yet, so no trial fits so far.=0A>=0A>Thanks for taking al= l those measurements.=A0 Looks like if I switched to the turbo starter I co= uld account for almost half of the material that I would have to machine of= f.=A0 OTOH, you never know if switching the solenoid to the other side is g= oing to cause some sort of interference problem with something else under m= y cowl... So I will probably just take off the material and call it a day.= =0A>-- =0A>David Leonard=0A>=0A>Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY=0A>http://N4VY.Rotar= yRoster.net=0A>http://RotaryRoster.net=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 = at 11:34 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A>=0A>Dave,=0A>>=A0=0A>>= =A0=A0 Spent about 3 hours Wednesday in my 110F hangar measuring starters ,= Tracy's RD1X mounting=0A>>plates , and both manual & auto transmission bel= l hsg starter mount area................Tracy's RD1X mtg=0A>>plates from 13= B rear hsg to starter mt surface is 3.550 (same as 86-91 manual bell hsg)..= ............The=0A>>86-91 auto trans measures 3.700 (essentially the same).= ...................Measured my 86 manual starter=0A>>(what Tracy calls out = for the RD1X re-drive) , My 88 auto trans starter (I am using auto bell hsg= with a=0A>>extended RD1C input shaft......Like Bulent did)(Do not ask Trac= y to make one.....Bulent and I cured=0A>>him of one off's) and a 93-95 turb= o starter.............Results below=0A>>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A>>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 86-91= manual starter=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 86-91 auto starter=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 93-95 turbo starter=0A>>=A0=0A>>mount diameter=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A02.635=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2.635=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2.635=0A>>=A0=0A>>mt flange to bendix gear= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1.720=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1.= 875=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 1.875=0A>>=A0=A0=A0=A0 (unactivated)=0A>>=A0=0A>>mt flange to bendix= gear=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2.220=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 2.375=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2.375=0A>>=A0=A0=A0 (solenoid activated)=0A>>=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 =0A>>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Have you done a test mount of the 'ACT" flyw= heel yet to measure exactly how much the starter needs to be =0A>>repositio= ned??..................Also have you given any thought to using a spacer su= ggested by Tracy between the =0A>>flywheel and counterweight.............I = did not find=A0my =A00.500 spacer that I offered while searching yesterday = but I=0A>>will find it (thats what happens when your day job (caretaker) ke= eps you 55 miles and 5 years from your project)=0A>>and you forget where yo= u put things for safekeeping !!.......................<:)=0A>>=A0=0A>>=0A>>= Kelly Troyer=0A>>"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>= >"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A>>"TURBONETICS"_= TO4E50 Turbo=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>From: Kelly Troyer =0A>>=0A>>To= : Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>>Sent: Tuesday= , July 19, 2011 6:42 PM =0A>>=0A>>=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> --0-225187885-1311452615=:80554 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,
   Forgot = to say you are correct that the wide area washers used on backside of the f= lexplate
will not be nec= essary with the flywheel..............=
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From:= Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancair= online.net>
Sent: Sat= urday, July 23, 2011 3:16 PM
Subjec= t: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok Here are the important flywheel measuremen= ts

Dave,
  Sounds like you have it under control.....= .......Easy for me to say since it is your dollar
but you might give some thought while the flywhee= l is in the mill to having several holes
(looks like maybe 1 inch or better after you meas= ure) milled equidistant (to maintain
balance) around the pressure plate slip surface............If you ever plan on doing= this it 
will never be any less expensive since you will h= ave already paid for setup time...... I
think you could eliminate close to another 2 lbs = off the flywheel............FWIW<= /FONT> 
 
Kelly Troyer
"= DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS= "_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From: David Leonard <w= dleonard@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:56= PM
Subject: [FlyRotary]= Re: Ok Here are the important fl= ywheel measurements

Hi Kelly, Yes, I have it and I took it out to the h= angar yesterday.  All my preliminary measurements seem to be more or l= ess accurate.  Meaning that I will have to shave a little off the face= of the flywheel and/or the spline of the damper plate.  I also need t= o extend the starter about .37 inches to reach the ring gear. 
On the back of the flywheel, the surface is flat in the locations of the h= oles and there is enough room to fit the nuts without any machine work, but= if I want to use washers, I will need to do some machine work there to fit= the washers.  with such a thick steel plate, washers probably would n= ot be necessary. 

So my plans are to machine down face of the = flywheel like you suggest, so that the slip surface is flush with the main = part of the plate.  I will have the mill drill the holes (Tracy sugges= ts that, and it makes sense).  I will also mill 0.17 in off both the flange of the starter and into the adapter plate to make up the 0.37 i= nches to the flywheel ring gear.  Final measurements still pending on = that starter distance, but it is pretty close.

--
David Leonard<= BR>
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
= ht= tp://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Kel= ly Troyer <keltro@att.net>= ; wrote:
Dave do you have your flywheel yet and have you come to any prel= iminary conclusions on mods
necessary to make it and the starter mate up ??..............
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS= "_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
"TURBONETICS"_= TO4E50 Turbo

From:<= /SPAN> Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net><= BR>To: Rotary motors in air= craft <flyrotary@lanca= ironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 6:50 PM
= Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok Here are the important flywheel measurements

Dave,
    Clarification......= ........
        
One more thing the 86-91 auto trans starter is t= he same as the  Turbo starter.......Only difference
I can see is the front Bendix hsg has a little more material mac= hined of presumably to clear the
curved trans converter..............The mounting bolt spacing is also different and new holes would
need to be drilled in the RD1X front plate...............=
 
   What I meant= to say was "The 86-91 Auto trans and Turbo starter mount spaci= ng is different than the 86-91
manual trans starter that Tracy calls out for = the RD1X re-drive and requires new <= SPAN>mounting holes drilled"......... = ;
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC= 2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold<= /DIV>
"TUR= BONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From:<= /SPAN> Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net><= BR>To: Rotary motors in air= craft <flyrotary@lanca= ironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 4:34 PM
= Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok= Here are the important flywheel measurements

Dave,
 
    Tracy said in previous post about the spacer = that front of the drive spline hub can be machined
off to provide clearance with front mount plate........... I rea= lize several measurements would have to
be made to verify hub positioning , input shaft spline engagemen= t , etc + starter engagement to
utilize a counterweight/flywheel spacer..............Also I know= you are under a time constraint in = order
.......... 
  Have all the parts available and do a bolt up to verify a= ll dimensions...........Measure at least twice
before cutting metal !!........................<:)=
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC= 2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold<= /DIV>
"TUR= BONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

From:<= /SPAN> David Leonard <wdleonard@gm= ail.com>
To: Rota= ry motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ok= Here are the important flywheel measurements

Thanks Kelly,
I am not sure that I am interested in using a spacer, because my measu= rements say the flywheel will put the damper plate a little too far&nb= sp;aft (in the car) as it is.  No good to fix one problem an= d create another.  There is not really any room to move the dampe= r plate closer to the gear box.
 
My flex plate has not arrived yet, so no trial fits so far.
 
Thanks for taking all those measurements.  Looks like if I switch= ed to the turbo starter I could account for almost half of the material tha= t I would have to machine off.  OTOH, you never know if switching the = solenoid to the other side is going to cause some sort of interference prob= lem with something else under my cowl... So I will probably just take off t= he material and call it a day.
--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY<= /SPAN>
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
=

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
Dave,
 
   Spent about 3 hours Wednesday in my 110F hangar measuring starters , Tracy's RD1X mount= ing
plates , and both manual & auto transmission bell hsg starter mount area................Tracy's RD1X m= tg
plates from 13B rear hsg to sta= rter mt surface is 3.550 (same as 86-91 manual bell hsg<= /SPAN>)..............The
86-91 auto trans measures 3.700 (essentially the same)..........= ..........Measured my 86 manual starter
(what Tracy calls out for the RD1X re-drive) , My 88 auto trans starter (I am using auto bell = hsg with a
extended RD1C input shaft......Like Bulent did)(Do not ask Tracy to make one.....<= SPAN>Bulent= and I cured
him of one off's) and a 93-95 t= urbo starter.............Results below
          &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     
          &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;      86-91 manual starter   &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;      86-91 auto starter    =             &nb= sp;            =     93-95 turbo starter
 
mount diameter        &n= bsp;            = ;       2.635     &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;    2.635        = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;      2.635
 
mt flange to bendix gear &= nbsp;            1.7= 20            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;          1.875  &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            1.875<= /SPAN>
     (unactivated)
 
mt flange to bendix gear &= nbsp;            2.2= 20            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;           2.375 &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;             = 2.375
    (solenoid activated)
      
       Have you done a test mount = of the 'ACT" flywheel yet to measure exactly how much the starter needs to = be
repositioned??..................Also have you given any thought = to using a spacer suggested by Tracy between the
flywheel and counterweight.............I did not find my &n= bsp;0.500 spacer that I offered while searching yesterday but I
will find it (thats what happen= s when your day job (caretaker) keeps you 55 miles and 5 years from your pr= oject)
and you forget where you put things for safekeeping !!..........= .............<:)
 
 
Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC= 2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold<= /DIV>
"TUR= BONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=

From:<= /SPAN> Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>= =20

To: Rotary motors = in aircraft <flyrotary= @lancaironline.net>
Se= nt: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:42 PM=20

 












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