X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm15-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.164] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with SMTP id 5054972 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:25:47 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.164; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2011 03:25:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.83] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2011 03:25:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2011 03:25:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 669844.1650.bm@omp1020.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 49705 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2011 03:25:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1310959513; bh=ybjMTyYe2oUXzgz2wecx88bsDegulHsaNCUtsLIhkn0=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FY+KosPHVFWpfICuDTA+1xKSAygfeP6YOb0wOXjRkcDyolnIp4bkaHm/vyv8FU8RgEz19YNSVs4oFwDSEm02POFuiOP9WB5JlaeOHYmVcaKruYMrO8VYw7nosqI5IT0vsdql+POgiGXx5a2IyPVnnkUq2bjJDytGDAowbpgihpw= Received: from [192.168.1.2] (echristley@65.190.53.180 with plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2011 20:25:12 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 40RP3pGswBDvPav1a.I8eMv.KS8bdgWBnCloVoKaow-- X-YMail-OSG: Z5x7XJAVM1mc13lpd3nxgVCZILYVWATNeaCPK7ahY5mQCwv 1Z26JOES04otZxQ2BZasy99S0IQNG1NJbLXvj9ZsqzgnvmYMElm9DA_lceaj ZyS1dcUzFkGvDyUiJ777EpItCIlyX8tDJSqdq6wl.tqdVSTVG64e5gJnwq.d T5CRbb9l_2pPHSHXHBtDlW0v8oq4cDjncbOLo_di.lNUVgXLadwoBdKOb3M3 ak8SJUwLog__ChGXUc0HMejEpW1HFv4q1PYZv1TvVhBP9ugs3ig8eGwkDRhX 6N.k_7yOK.KTmEK1WaGxwrgngoNv_EgGmZYqEF_QB9PSeJ5syzA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4E23A794.7060502@nc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:25:08 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@att.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Flex Plate Failure - Improvements References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/15/2011 08:48 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: > Guys, > > I removed the flex plate from my 20B today and found a crack. So, as > they say, "I now have skin in the game." I was out in the garage > tonight, contemplating this problem and a possible solution came to > me. I'll run it by you guys here and see what you think. > > Comparing the 20B flex plate to a picture on the Mazdatrix web site, > it appears that the 20B auto flex plate is identical to the Renesis > auto flex plate. The outer dimensions (ring gear) and offset from > eccentric shaft flange to outer edge of ring gear of the 20B flex > plate is the same as the 13B plate I removed from my 20B today. The > Renesis/20B plate has a more gradual dish shape than the 13B, and is > thicker too. Since I had a spare 20B flex plate and a spare 13B flex > plate, I took a few quick measurements, and it looks like the 13B flex > plate could be easily made to nest down inside the 20B plate by > removing the 13B's ring gear. That would allow for the two plates to > be bolted together using the four 20B outer bolt holes along with the > six crank bolts in the center (when installing on engine). Then the > existing redrive adapter plate could be attached using the original > four existing bolts existing in the 13B plate. This would leave the > RD2-C aluminum adapter plate offset by the thickness of the 20B flex > plate (.090"), and would result in a much stronger flex plate. I > calculate this would increase the FWF weight by about 4 lbs. > > Comments? > Sounds like a lot of work to get to overkill. Why not just bolt some rubber disks to the adapter plate so that they fill the lightening holes? The plate is plenty strong enough as long as it doesn't actually flex. Which begs the question of why to they call it a flex plate..but I digress. Add four more points where the plate is tied to the adapter plate, and the slight flex will be eliminated. Only a few oz of extra weight, and no machining.