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Nga: Steven W. Boese <SBoese@uwyo.edu>
Lėnda: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EGT and EM2
Data: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 03:35:07 +0000
Pėr: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Not Tracy but ...

 

The attached image shows noise induced into CHT readings from type J shielded and grounded thermocouples that were bundled with spark plug wires.  The set up was a 6 cyinder Jabiru and the affected signals were from cylinders 1 and 5.  Only the left bank (cylinders 1,3, & 5) thermocouples and spark plug wires were bundled together for a few inches.  The data was collected with the logging function of a Dynon D180 EFIS-EMS system.  As can be seen in the data plot, the noise disappears when the engine is shut off as indicated the RPM data (yellow).  After separating the spark plug wires from the CHT leads, the noise was eliminated even when the engine was running.

 

 

Steve Boese
RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2

 

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of Thomas Mann [thomasmann51@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:58 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EGT and EM2

Tracy ..... does shielded wiring help avoid this issue?


On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Tracy <rwstracy@gmail.com> wrote:
Thought I had commented on this before.   This symptom is most likely caused by impulse noise from routing the EGT lines too close to ignition leads or other high noise Sources.  The thermocouples generate low level signals in the millivolt range so it doesn't take much to spike the reading.   

Tracy

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On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wrote:

I have written about this before but continue to have issues. 

 

My EGT readings are inconsitant.  They seem to give what would seem to be a correct reading but then seem to cycles to much higher readings.  So, it may show 1500 but then jump to 3000, then 6500 then 7200 (or whatever) and then start from what seems to be low to high.

 

I have not been sitting on my hands fretting.  I had sent the unit back to Tracy and mentioned it and he found nothing amiss.  Since then I have replaced all connections to the EM2, new thermalwire, new connectors and now new sensors from "thesensorconnnection" all to no avail.  While not flight essential, I hate that I can't solve the problem.  I tire of throwing money and time at it.  I have looked at grounds, redid connections and tried a few different connections methods (where I connect the thermal wire from the EM2 to the thermalwire from the actual EGT connector.

 

This is becomeing a real annoyance.  I am currently finishing up my A/C install (95% done) and them I am back to my first squawk list...quite short now) before I have a squawk "party...yeah, yall are all invited....not time, just show up, I will do what I can to make it a party ;-)) before I pay a DAR.

 

Ya'll's input is appreciated.

 

Chris Barber

Velocity N17010

Houston, Texas

13b Turbo/Mistral Intake


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