X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mx2.netapp.com ([216.240.18.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTPS id 4994088 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 25 May 2011 10:11:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.240.18.37; envelope-from=echristley@att.net X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,267,1304319600"; d="scan'208";a="550654122" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 25 May 2011 07:11:22 -0700 Received: from [10.62.16.125] (ernestc-laptop.hq.netapp.com [10.62.16.125]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id p4PEBLD7008734 for ; Wed, 25 May 2011 07:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DDD0E07.3030405@att.net> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 10:11:19 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@att.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New impeller design References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charles Davis wrote: > If an impeller were to be cast for this air-induction/super-charging=20 > application, and was tied-in to the e-shaft (key-way or similar) would = > it work to have a suitable magnet cast-in to the periphery of the=20 > impeller, so that two coils could be mounted, 180 degrees apart, to=20 > provide =E2=80=98magneto-type=E2=80=99 spark to one set of plugs =E2=80= =93 one coil per rotor at=20 > 180* for a 2-rotor, and 120* for a 3-rotor =E2=80=93 this sounds, to me= , so=20 > simple that I am surprised nobody has done it before =E2=80=93 how good= would it=20 > be to have a completely battery-independent ignition system for=20 > amateur-built aircraft ? =E2=80=A6 maybe I should shaddup, & return to = lurking =E2=80=A6 >=20 >=20 The system you describe has been working perfectly a lot longer than I've= been alive. All I can say is, don't let your=20 wife catch you pulling the flywheel off your lawn mower to power your air= plane 8*) There is a magnet cast into the=20 flywheel, and the coil is built around a C shaped stack of stamped steel.= That flywheel could possibly handle the RPM=20 of the eshaft (but I wouldn't dare bet anything important on it). I think the only issue you'd have is modifying the advance. You could ac= cept the "good 'nuff" compromise of a static=20 20* to 25* in exchange for the bone dry simplicity. Possibly driving jus= t the trailing plugs as a dead generator=20 backup. That, combined with a gravity feed system would make your engine= electrically independent. Or you could try to=20 design some sort of advance control. Maybe use a MegaSquirt and write so= me code to control a stepper motor that moves=20 the pickup? I'm currently trying to use the space between the engine and the gearbox = mount plate to install a blower and a=20 generator. I think that is enough multipurposing of a single piece of al= uminum for now. However, at some point in the=20 future I may need a new lawn mower. 8*)