X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm16-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.236.19] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4992020 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 May 2011 14:27:29 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.236.19; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 May 2011 18:26:56 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.119] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 May 2011 18:26:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 May 2011 18:26:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 240713.57327.bm@omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 46779 invoked from network); 23 May 2011 18:26:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1306175215; bh=nJYQo4UhVzSs0efkQqd+Qoly9EtzWJqF8Lzffeu4m2c=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=G8VUX5Eu4RxfhBhYQM3U0SfQuZmoWKs0zOI8l4+VjoWxWoBSMJtc1sS/XGrZBg9ovW6h3Kbl2gtv2K3A0hnLT1Wnlu2YGzKSaPGy3fyaAbD3AgZy9FE7a5uxlONr2o/nP8Uf4wvjZnIEr7wDzHyXjFLUHW+kiQOj2jy//o82VTg= Received: from [192.168.10.8] (ceengland@98.95.186.208 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 May 2011 11:26:55 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: uXJ_6LOswBCr8InijhYErvjWlJuRkoKPGNeiuu7PA.5wcGoy X-YMail-OSG: yMhAFCYVM1nBWZSVo1kWCXgsZFNDkad.JF43TJoixRuWQUb vEHyMoYxRHd60v13Yu5rAP4FhXJQ3dTF1ygG2KVkOn2.c2bpz_Dr26g0VlQ7 c9NDxU6J741MuHc_d4sZvS1SAoR92oAstwPC71jyWboXkwlJzdvLbfNtj2lu MwZhTNk8.9B5nZLfRh7Yf33_7EpMRHctuxuSt4j0jwmPbZInvWsVQcMiSw3h NezxE1juDEw.9ibLBzNz00r9JnUfgPInxmJPKI5S2o2A_bXVvoBWty5aU71h gQnGaqL7LdMY3OkKXst6EfHyIxjmTJj0CQQ4Hz3GQ.JDCSKU_A3nBjPGkY3g qprnz.nnYXNsakvwohWVjRq2rdv_oUvmaKjgn_5lx8uE1HjxdbmlLFsBFtrs Zbxb8WT.80ZHETpEMz1WM9Co6eWsLsSehPB2gtPKx X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4DDAA6EF.8030905@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 13:26:55 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Center line thrust References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As Ed mentioned, it will add slight nose-down force under power. A lot=20 of high powered homebuilts have down angle built into the mount. If=20 that's true for the Venture, maybe you can take out some or all of the=20 down angle to compensate for the higher thrust line. As Tracy hinted, are you going to be able to clear the top cowl? It=20 would be a shame to cut up that beautiful aluminum. Charlie On 5/23/2011 12:52 PM, Thomas Giddings wrote: > Thought you guys might like to see my engine compartment. My plan is = to mount the Rotary on this mount with a 1/2 " 6061 T6 > plate. The original design for the Questair Venture used a IO550 Cont= inental bolted directly(via the oil pan) to this engine mount. Since I ha= ve no room below this mount because of the nose wheel retracting into it.= I am using the mounting plate as a dry sump plate as well. Soooo. the re= ason I am asking about raising the Center of thrust is when mounting the= Rotary to the original motor mount shown in the Photo and using Marcotte= PSRU which rises it another 1.5 in . It actually works out to be around = 3 " after I factor in the height of the mount plate PSRU offset and the n= atural higher point of thrust with the 20B. I seemed to have missed this = with all my backyard engineering. The reason i thought this would work be= tter then LS1 I originally planned to install is how neatly the rotary bo= lted to the original mount without modification to the motor mount and no= se wheel retract system. However if you guys think this a none factor . I= will proceed . One positive about this I will have a Bigger prop then No= rmal and it will give about standard ground clearance. Any other thoughts= or observations would be welcome. > > Tom Giddings > > On May 23, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Tracy wrote: > >> I'm surprised you are asking about raising it but my guess is that it = would have negligible effect. The usual challenge is getting it as high = as the original thrust line. >> >> Tracy >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 23, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Thomas Giddings= wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know what the effect would be on airframe to raise the ce= nter of thrust for the crankshaft 1.5 " higher then original design? >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Tom Giddings >>> VP Avionics Sales >>> MIDWEST AVIONICS >>> 200 Hardy Roberts Dr >>> PO Box 219 >>> West Paducah,KY 42086 >>> 877-904 9966 >>> Cell; 727 858-1772 >>> FAX:270 744 3466 >>> tom@midwestaviation.net >>> Online Store >>> www.midwest-avionics.com >>> >>> < Mi