X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm20-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.174] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4957331 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:55:48 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.174; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.97] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 03:55:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.71] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 03:55:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 03:55:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 108928.2015.bm@omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 21069 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2011 03:55:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1303790113; bh=uU83qHZLYuBJb5wOGDt2VBEuE7ZcpsxIeafFjPo0/zc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qYrfybWaKHA6tCK7STVReKyWfRkrxILX16+MvsfPIy6qTmgUFFfESMSvnRbTq1MkHVfLlOzarZmDwk0dU9Pxf6RolqUw+XH+F/plS8381Re1PMjSp92EQl0OuARlO/t3+W9qvGYlEynnGpYnR/o82m8v0iMi41ci5z1m4XJC70o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yrsZupHCl8H5WYfFdUSxjXnGUBKHxMWU0/TfUrvmOt7HekFXV4r8Gk3GmXBV6uXCg0xtKkoMymyUj15OHyMD0MWIon4fkMrAKKIaKSmP5wsOWqcSQhVtBbPOTAZsy901f4kYref1ti9gYlghWaqVPpMfsAGy12j/wREuxTodcQA=; Message-ID: <997508.20554.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZlGphTkVM1mFkmC9d36K_bBxJcLe.bRUj2RjU5G84Q6kCem 0QsqHIntHerzvIK6DTSBl1GcUl66OMsjwGVUX9N_YfECQr_Gh402s8pX7N91 vVfER8YpHBn9uf1Vs5WTEbW.IvpvkVont9R3pvIW4FLjJqrDamqkDFMHh1vT e1VUv5Bf34NKjCXnTUitjqyvbuPq.70a6iT6fB9gMx7R3kY0exMqOAWUI59c QpL4pr0VKKJkg9ar2F2bkLcHX6Q1acO1hzH7CypsA3dgaK9Oj0poberUsPJy 6f6ZeKgz4jZUwIHI3w8c9bAQMnQOWUr5VG.nCTSnAbj73SLIfAHZ5iYCyRfJ FtK79A2nM4cNQufV6 Received: from [208.114.42.152] by web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:55:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1109267272-1303790113=:20554" --0-1109267272-1303790113=:20554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lynn,=0A=0A=A0=A0 All the cover bolts,waterpunp bolts plus an extra bolt to= p right (from the =0Acockpit) to a handy =0A=0Amachined flat on the front s= ide housing................Remember no one revs to =0A9000 rpm then=0Adrops= the clutch on an airplane................Prop torque loads are more gentle= =0Aand gradual than=0Athan those seen in any race car..............again I= MHO=0A=0A=A0=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_= Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONET= ICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "L= ehanover@aol.com" =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:41:54 PM=0ASubject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake=0A=0AI have a set of plans as well. = I have welded up assemblies for another Dyke. The =0Aoriginal is still flyi= ng every year. The original design was to have been all =0Acomposite, proba= bly fiberglass. The FAA would have none of it. So he changed the =0Adesign = to that "New" 4130 steel tubing. Just lucky he was not burned at the =0Asta= ke over that. Surprised he got away with the =0A=0A"Other worldly" Glass sk= ins.=A0=0A=0AIs the Mistral mount attached by more than the front cover bol= ts? =0AThe engines are not very stiff in beam or torsion, and drag racers a= dd the thick =0Aoil pan plate, over sized case bolts and extra dowels aroun= d the plug side, to =0Areduce rotor housing flex and help carry torque into= the rear iron.=0A=0ALynn E. Hanover=0A=0A=0AIn a message dated 4/25/2011 9= :56:06 P.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, =0Ahjjohnson@sasktel.net writes:=0AThat= 's after the Dyke Delta is up & flying right..??=A0 I've actually got a set= of =0Aoriginal plans here for one.. I'd always wanted to adapt the design = to a full =0Acomposite [composite as in all fibreglass and carbon, not just= the skins] =0Aairframe but thats not in the cards right here and now.. Mor= e likely a single =0Aplace w/ a 20B to start w/. [Hey I fly @ 280knts TAS= =A0in the=A0'work' plane.. I =0Awanna go that fast in 'my' plane too=A0 :) = ]=A0 =0A=0A>But that is all alot longer term than these products/projects.= =0A>=0A>Jarrett Johnson =0A>www.innovention-tech.com =0A>=0A>----- Original= Message ----- From: Kelly Troyer Date: Monday, =0A>April = 25, 2011 6:44 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake =0A> --0-1109267272-1303790113=:20554 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Lynn,
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  = All the cover bolts,waterpunp bolts plus an extra bolt top right (from the= cockpit) to a handy
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machined flat on the front side housing.= ...............Remember no one revs to 9000 rpm then
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drops the= clutch on an airplane................Prop torque loads are more gentle and= gradual than
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than those seen in any race car..............aga= in IMHO
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Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)<= /P>=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/= Oil Manifold

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"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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=0AFrom: "Lehanover@aol.com" <Lehanover@= aol.com>
To: Rotary m= otors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:41:54 PM
<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistra= l 'Like' Intake

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I have a set of plans as well. I have welded up a= ssemblies for another Dyke. The original is still flying every year. The or= iginal design was to have been all composite, probably fiberglass. The FAA = would have none of it. So he changed the design to that "New" 4130 steel tu= bing. Just lucky he was not burned at the stake over that. Surprised he got= away with the
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"Other worldly" Glass skins. 
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Is the Mistral mount attached by more than the front = cover bolts?
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The engines are not very stiff in beam or torsio= n, and drag racers add the thick oil pan plate, over sized case bolts and e= xtra dowels around the plug side, to reduce rotor housing flex and help car= ry torque into the rear iron.
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Lynn E. Hano= ver
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In a messa= ge dated 4/25/2011 9:56:06 P.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, hjjohnson@sasktel.n= et writes:
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www.inn= ovention-tech.com

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From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> =0A

<= B>Date: Monday, April 25, 2011 6:44 pm =0A

Subject: [FlyRo= tary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake
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