X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.190] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4957324 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:38:01 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.190; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 03:37:26 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.77] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 03:37:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 03:37:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 174043.32295.bm@omp1014.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 11040 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2011 03:37:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1303789046; bh=s/+ffN0J42zIqqaC2/CPni4RKsyqRlxoIYX1VPK9ww4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GKyPQ9t8r61gQvBZD7da/wYJ2duqdcOjcP2IyldKooDmZDLfD32fYZXuxauSGYO0HMG1PObDs5zsyqTCzlE9llqxoJiL/0I4j8leuY15fIKKa33/THJJEZ/uR1V4U894VuTNzYGoVlsaktIrwzFtNwnVeY6M6453uG1vgccUnsI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fZccS0xIewE5ETgBNtch/JCoJ7T7xi1LoT49HigGKay8lo+asAFod7YoISyAsD86V+1WpQUpFNOVukHayke0GCzSrI1ahub6ox+g1QLerBd3Rf3CFc7+zYLtq8RXmil6SccyvxqUpl/glFVzpbyeHsUde3kq9q9vKDCn7VFinnI=; Message-ID: <21342.10921.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zjpKTCgVM1m776_tyHAhBYywu91ZoRRkrhOl4HCAeNk1X.N uBsqlAmkM170cQ8oHjP7E7vsPHAhfvKmpORdKKd71sGtveKMajmUHNzfAJ04 68smBU7Fcxl0JcNssYKuAFPtUcVqAcof4c7FPaVw_0TjPhF8vEVfWTO9MonK zLgAmlOIlnBwPkLzFMsjRbbFNk8rSmbG1R83CGPP4rcCAhF9rYMxn5Pobw4I Bv2enl9ph.tLjiptWWfoIVI1CqJUO6G3aoJOnQmcsTp1EC5i25192eSvhTc4 3dAnfTch0f83gO_SFHlbQWuNxQm1Ebz8.A6ZLOSclU2pwCSHXY4qULp.jyR4 IF11Mb6T2tfjkOX4U Received: from [208.114.42.152] by web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:37:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1122146233-1303789045=:10921" --0-1122146233-1303789045=:10921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill,=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0My info says the Type 2 ,18 degree was introduce= d when O-320's were put =0Ain twin Comanches=0Awith extra long constant spe= ed prop extensions (for a more streamlined =0Acowl)............This then pu= t=0Athe engine CG further forward so to keep the Dynafocal mount "Focal" po= int =0Aslightly ahead of the=0Aengine CG the Dynafocal mount angle was redu= ced from 30 degrees to 18 =0Adegrees.........=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 The Dyna= focal type 1 focal point is 14.323 inches from the =0Amounts...............= ...The "Mistral" 13B=0Aengine CG is 9.44 inches from the mount so should wo= rk well with the type 1, 30 =0Adegree=A0Dynafocal=0Amount..............IMHO= =A0=0A=A0=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ En= gine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS= "_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Bill = Bradburry =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:13:02 PM=0ASubject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake=0A=0A=0AThere is also a Type 2 Dynafo= cal that I think is in more common usage.=A0 If I =0Arecall the angle on it= is 17 degrees.=0A=A0=0ABill B=0A=A0=0A=0A________________________________= =0A=0AFrom:Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] O= n Behalf Of =0AKelly Troyer=0ASent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:57 PM=0ATo: Ro= tary motors in aircraft=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake=0A= =A0=0AJarrett,=0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0 I found the "Dynafocal" info...........= .....Was on my other computer =0A!!..................=0A=A0=0AKelly Troyer= =0A"DYKE DELTA JD2"(Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2= =0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=A0=0A= =A0=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:H & J Johnson =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Mon, April 25, 2011 11:21:48 AM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistra= l 'Like' Intake=0AThe scanning should give in the tens of thousands [0.01"]= or less depending on =0Awhat type of equipement used etc.=A0=A0 That in co= njunction w/ bolt hold placement =0Athat I already have [lots of collected = data over the years] I should be able to =0Aduplicate the basic geometry. F= rom there it will become a new product in that we =0Awant to make it=A0some= thing that=A0works for everyone [or as many as possible] to =0Amake it a vi= able unit. That info, mixed w/ knowing what the 'Standard' mount =0Ageometr= y is should get us where we need to go.=0ABest regards=0A=0AJarrett Johnson= =0Awww.innovention-tech.com =0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: Kelly= Troyer =0ADate: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:03 am =0ASubjec= t: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake =0A> Jarrett, =0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 I do not know exactly=A0what dimensions the scanning give you =0A> s= uch as bolt =0A> hole placement, etc.........I presumed =0A> that the angle= s of the mount ears needed for the "Dynafoal" mounts =0A> would be =0A> "De= ad" on though.......... =0A> =0A> =0A> Kelly Troyer =0A> "DYKE DELTA JD2" (= Eventually) =0A> "13B ROTARY"_ Engine =0A> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 =0A> "MISTRAL= "_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A> "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= > =0A> ________________________________ =0A> From: H & J Johnson =0A> To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A> Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:49:43 AM =0A> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re= : Mistral 'Like' Intake =0A> =0A> =A0Excellent, now I just need to get some= Dynafocal dimensions [I've =0A> seen it on =0A> the web in the past, just = gotta re-locate the dimensional =0A> 'standards']. That in =0A> conjunction= w/ a few scans & the picture will start to really take =0A> shape! =0A> = =0A> I love progress :) =0A> I can't say Thanks enough Kelly, w/out the hel= p of yourself and =0A> others it would =0A> be a much steeper curve to get = it up to speed. =0A> =0A> Jarrett Johnson =0A> www.innovention-tech.com =0A= > --=A0 Homepage:=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/=A0 Archive and UnSub:=A0=A0 = =0A> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html =0A> =0A--= =0A =A0=0AHomepage:=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/=0A =A0=0AArchive and UnSub= :=A0=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --0-1122146233-1303789045=:10921 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Bill,
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      &= nbsp;My info says the Type 2 ,18 degree was introduced when O-320's were pu= t in twin Comanches
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with extra long constant speed prop extens= ions (for a more streamlined cowl)............This then put
=0A
th= e engine CG further forward so to keep the Dynafocal mount "Focal" point sl= ightly ahead of the
=0A
engine CG the Dynafocal mount angle was re= duced from 30 degrees to 18 degrees.........
=0A
 
=0A      The Dynafocal type 1 focal point is 14.32= 3 inches from the mounts..................The "Mistral" 13B
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en= gine CG is 9.44 inches from the mount so should work well with the type 1, = 30 degree Dynafocal
=0A
mount..............IMHO 
&nbs= p;
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Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

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"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

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"TURBON= ETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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=0AFrom:= Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyro= tary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:13:02 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake
<= BR>=0A=0A=0A
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There is also a Type 2 Dynafoc= al that I think is in more common usage.  If I recall the angle on it = is 17 degrees.

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Bill B

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From: Rotary motors = in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:57 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral= 'Like' Intake

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Jarrett,

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     I f= ound the "Dynafocal" info................Was on my other computer !!.......= ...........
 

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Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

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<= FONT size=3D3 face=3DArial>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil M= anifold

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"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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= Fro= m: H & J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net>=
To: Rotary motors in ai= rcraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 11:21:48 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' I= ntake

=0A

The scanning should give in the tens of thousands= [0.01"] or less depending on what type of equipement used etc.  = That in conjunction w/ bolt hold placement that I already have [lots of co= llected data over the years] I should be able to duplicate the basic geomet= ry. From there it will become a new product in that we want to make it = ;something that works for everyone [or as many as possible] to make it= a viable unit. That info, mixed w/ knowing what the 'Standard' mount geome= try is should get us where we need to go.

=0A

Best regards

Jarrett Johnson
www.innovention-t= ech.com

=0A

--= --- Original Message -----

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From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>= ;

=0A

Date: Mo= nday, April 25, 2011 10:03 am

=0A

> Jarrett,
>
>     &n= bsp; I do not know exactly what dimensions the scanning give you
&= gt; such as bolt
> hole placement, etc.........I presumed
> t= hat the angles of the mount ears needed for the "Dynafoal" mounts
> = would be
> "Dead" on though..........
>
>
> Kel= ly Troyer
> "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)
> "13B ROTARY"_ Eng= ine
> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold <= BR>> "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo
>
>
>
>
= > ________________________________
> From: H & J Johnson <= hjjohnson@sasktel.net>
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrot= ary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:49:43 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake
>
>  Excellent, now I just need to get some Dynafocal dimensions [I've > seen it on
> the web in the past, just gotta re-locate the di= mensional
> 'standards']. That in
> conjunction w/ a few scan= s & the picture will start to really take
> shape!
>
= > I love progress :)
> I can't say Thanks enough Kelly, w/out the= help of yourself and
> others it would
> be a much steeper c= urve to get it up to speed.
>
> Jarrett Johnson
> www.= innovention-tech.com
> --  Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary= .com/  Archive and UnSub:  
> http://mail.lancaironli= ne.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
> 

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