X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm15.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.142] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4957238 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:26:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.142; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 00:25:33 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.78] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 00:25:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 00:25:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 540483.73576.bm@omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38926 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2011 00:25:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1303777533; bh=lxmB5Db19GtlkUm4r2vafUCfXSwsr1dM3rPxJBK/at8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vkyuP11Dk6ZiG2/K9tkXOCvgL4+8jVu/MaM4HYWaS6dtCbZsxEzYdWfa6QSjYOYn2uggYlZ4R0MDbfgEvq64fz7nKm1lsxj3m4OVZ+q30mWdDXuMrGRxzk/g0dfexktvDUf0j9YqZje4vdvqJx+GhU/Xdp6TOvoyUO9df4wq/Jg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XRq5wS6M1WXTD8T+Fnv83W9TQiS2FW3f0RviG50VrTVmYKyWR8ffwrqNnWcjhUlai7xeAke6NjJgsi7RLtdDcjNdNjE0RknCGVzObaC/z15nihzIHwfQiCNYeIv53Y84x7aSG4Z0gb2fUH58FD1M9BS8RLsOYOVcVfJde22T29c=; Message-ID: <339713.36798.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _GRvTXEVM1lOC7._f8oUB1DFdkhYkUeeBCRbESW7x3ublTE cw6.y78QuHMjfDZUDykRy7Q5CtM2W89tu7B1_sONcBDBfcQpddn516i3rLl9 YHeCgtTtoJBrRoDgZyO1zsRSd6zhn76iTfZ3WugnHqepCOr_QZM3EGqYIgVb _Rua_WZQn2ac1FcxitJ3TgRZih8i1wkuUo_CyV72t14TzAOfVGtOzG.yCViv cbMZJAXB7BhhavjonVle6IwaKJuA97eUE207SnEonlg6SEgybrhZBokcmEdh ym7jSfYNUer8_1j52HdIz_bzJF8fWMUj4hohuWvg1DiF3X4R8M6XasoLofI1 Vi.LWoXpqAT37xmBW Received: from [208.114.42.152] by web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:25:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-676711559-1303777533=:36798" --0-676711559-1303777533=:36798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jarrett,=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0 One of the guys from the Pacific Northwest that = used to post with the =0AFlyrotary group a=0Afew years ago made a wood and = foam mockup of his vision of a=A0Rotary=A0 back-plate =0Aand =0A=0Ahad it m= ounted on a RV4 "Dynafocal" mount and firewall and showed it at his EAA =0A= chapter=0Ameeting...........I have a photo of it on one of my computers....= ......For =0Awhatever reason he=0Adid not go forward with it...............= I bugged him periodically about the =0Achances of it being =0A=0Aproduced t= hen finally gave up and bit the bullet ($$$) for the "Mistral" =0Aback-plat= e then had=0Ato wait 2 years for it..............I really hope that with yo= ur talent and =0Aequipment it will become=0Aa reality as I know it would re= ally help "Standardize" Rotary installations from =0Athe current=0Amishmash= of engine mounts............=A0=0A=A0=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (E= ventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplat= e/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________= _______________=0AFrom: H & J Johnson =0ATo: Rotary = motors in aircraft =0ASent: Mon, April 25, 201= 1 6:26:49 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake=0A=0A=0AMy wi= fe was just asking me why I was drooling on the keyboard..=A0 :)=A0=A0 Once= I get =0Athose scans in my hand..it is going to=A0be hard to find time to = sleep at night!=0AThis is just incredible! I'm stuck w/ a perma-grin.=0AI j= ust might have to roust up a 3D model of the mount here yet tonight!=0AThan= ks for saving me the time of looking for it!=0A=0AJarrett Johnson =0Awww.in= novention-tech.com =0A=0A=0AJarrett,=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0 I found the "Dynafoc= al" info................Was on my other computer =0A!!..................=0A= =A0=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine= =0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO= 4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: H & J Joh= nson =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Mon, April 25, 2011 11:21:48 AM=0ASubject: [FlyRota= ry] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake=0A=0A=0AThe scanning should give in the tens = of thousands [0.01"] or less depending on =0Awhat type of equipement used e= tc.=A0=A0 That in conjunction w/ bolt hold placement =0Athat I already have= [lots of collected data over the years] I should be able to =0Aduplicate t= he basic geometry. From there it will become a new product in that we =0Awa= nt to make it=A0something that=A0works for everyone [or as many as possible= ] to =0Amake it a viable unit. That info, mixed w/ knowing what the 'Standa= rd' mount =0Ageometry is should get us where we need to go.=0ABest regards= =0A=0AJarrett Johnson =0Awww.innovention-tech.com =0A=0A----- Original Mess= age ----- From: Kelly Troyer Date: Monday, =0AApril 25, 20= 11 10:03 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake > =0AJarrett, = =0A=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I do not know exactly=A0what dimensions the sc= anning give you =0A> such as bolt =0A> hole placement, etc.........I presum= ed =0A> that the angles of the mount ears needed for the "Dynafoal" mounts = =0A> would be =0A> "Dead" on though.......... =0A> =0A> =0A> Kelly Troyer = =0A> "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) =0A> "13B ROTARY"_ Engine =0A> "RWS"_RD1= C/EC2/EM2 =0A> "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A> "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 T= urbo =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ________________________________ =0A> From: H= & J Johnson =0A> To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A> Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:49:43 AM =0A> = Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake =0A> =0A> =A0Excellent, now = I just need to get some Dynafocal dimensions [I've =0A> seen it on =0A> the= web in the past, just gotta re-locate the dimensional =0A> 'standards']. T= hat in =0A> conjunction w/ a few scans & the picture will start to really t= ake =0A> shape! =0A> =0A> I love progress :) =0A> I can't say Thanks enough= Kelly, w/out the help of yourself and =0A> others it would =0A> be a much = steeper curve to get it up to speed. =0A> =0A> Jarrett Johnson =0A> www.inn= ovention-tech.com =0A> --=A0 Homepage:=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/=A0 Arch= ive and UnSub:=A0=A0 =0A> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html =0A> =0A-- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and= UnSub: =0Ahttp://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --0-676711559-1303777533=:36798 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A
Jarrett,
=0A
 
=0A
 &nb= sp;   One of the guys from the Pacific Northwest that used to pos= t with the Flyrotary group a
=0A
few years ago made a wood and foa= m mockup of his vision of a Rotary  back-plate and
=0A
= had it mounted on a RV4 "Dynafocal" mount and firewall and showed it at his= EAA chapter
=0A
meeting...........I have a photo of it on one of = my computers..........For whatever reason he
=0A
did not go forwar= d with it...............I bugged him periodically about the chances of it b= eing
=0A
produced then finally gave up and bit the bullet ($$$) f= or the "Mistral" back-plate then had
=0A
to wait 2 years for it...= ...........I really hope that with your talent and equipment it will become=
=0A
a reality as I know it would really help "Standardize" Rotary= installations from the current
=0A
mishmash of engine mounts.....= ....... 
 
=0A

Kelly Troyer
"= DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Mani= fold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=0A

=0A

=0A=0A
=0AFrom: H & J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.ne= t>
To: Rotary motors = in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 6:26:49 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like= ' Intake

=0A

My wife was just asking me why I was drooling = on the keyboard..  :)   Once I get those scans in my hand..i= t is going to be hard to find time to sleep at night!

=0A

This is= just incredible! I'm stuck w/ a perma-grin.

=0A

I just might have to = roust up a 3D model of the mount here yet tonight!

=0A

Thanks for savi= ng me the time of looking for it!

Jarrett Johnson
www.innovention-tech.com=

=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
Jarrett,
=0A
 
= =0A
     I found the "Dynafocal" info..............= ..Was on my other computer !!..................
 
=0A

Kelly = Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Ev= entually)

=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/E= M2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo<= /P>=0A


=0A

=0A
=0A=0AFrom: H & = J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.n= et>
Sent: Mon, April = 25, 2011 11:21:48 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake

=0A

The scannin= g should give in the tens of thousands [0.01"] or less depending on what ty= pe of equipement used etc.   That in conjunction w/ bolt hold pla= cement that I already have [lots of collected data over the years] I should= be able to duplicate the basic geometry. From there it will become a new p= roduct in that we want to make it something that works for everyo= ne [or as many as possible] to make it a viable unit. That info, mixed w/ k= nowing what the 'Standard' mount geometry is should get us where we need to= go.

=0A

Best regards

Jarrett Johnson
www.innovention-tech= .com

=0A

----- Original Message ----- =0A

From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> =0A

Date: M= onday, April 25, 2011 10:03 am =0A

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mi= stral 'Like' Intake =0A

=0A

> Jarrett,
>
> &nb= sp;     I do not know exactly what dimensions the = scanning give you
> such as bolt
> hole placement, etc.......= ..I presumed
> that the angles of the mount ears needed for the "Dyn= afoal" mounts
> would be
> "Dead" on though..........
>= ;
>
> Kelly Troyer
> "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine
> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> "MISTRAL"_B= ackplate/Oil Manifold
> "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo
>
>=
>
>
> ________________________________
> From:= H & J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net>
> To: Rotary motors= in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Mon, April = 25, 2011 10:49:43 AM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intak= e
>
>  Excellent, now I just need to get some Dynafocal = dimensions [I've
> seen it on
> the web in the past, just gotta re-locate the dimensio= nal
> 'standards']. That in
> conjunction w/ a few scans &= ; the picture will start to really take
> shape!
>
> I= love progress :)
> I can't say Thanks enough Kelly, w/out the help = of yourself and
> others it would
> be a much steeper curve t= o get it up to speed.
>
> Jarrett Johnson
> www.innove= ntion-tech.com
> --  Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/&= nbsp; Archive and UnSub:  
> http://mail.lancaironline.net= :81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
> =0A

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