Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #54677
From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:50:42 -0700 (PDT)
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
Jarrett,
 
     Still more info !!.......... 
 
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo




From: H & J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 11:08:57 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake

Thanks Kelly! Starting to make more sense! Btw, I think I'm going to locate a qualified scanning service in your area. This will save the shipping cost all the way up here and back [the total cost should be a 'wash'] and will get your parts back to you faster than if they got sent all the way up here for a few days and then sent all the way back [plus avoiding customs and all those hassles too]. I'll cover all the cost and will have CAD models from the data fairly quickly after that.

I just gotta find the right 'shop' to send them to :)

Thanks again!

Jarrett Johnson
www.innovention-tech.com

 
Jarrett,
 
    Photo of "Renesis" front housing with some notation............A picture is worth a thousand words !!.............

 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo




From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 12:31:30 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake

Jarrett,
 
      Had some relief from my day job Thursday afternoon and was able to spend a precious few
hours at my hangar..............Bolted my spare Lycoming "Dyna-focal" mount ring to the "Mistral"
"Backplate" and proceeded to do some serious manual measurements to see if the "Renesis"
water-pump housing/pump cartridge can be integrated onto the "Mistral" "Backplate"............
 
     I have identified 4 problems at this time.......... None that cannot be easily fixed............
 
(1) First as I thought the left most  water-pump housing /stud (looking forward from cockpit) has
      a slight interference with the top left mount retainer cup........This retainer can be relieved slightly
      and a small re-enforcing patch welded without any loss of structural integrity.............
 
(2) The "Lycoming" mount ring I have (obtained from "Aircraft Spruce" prewelded) will have to
      have the top tubing cross-member removed and replaced as it needs a higher "Bow" in the
      tube and placed at a different angle to clear the pump housing and revised inlet/outlet for
      coolant........It might be better to buy the mount ring as an unwelded kit from A/C Spruce....
 
(3) The coolant inlet and outlet of the stock "Renesis" pump housing has to be repositioned
      when it is "Married" to the "Mistral" back-plate because it is aimed directly at the top left
      mount retainer..........Will leave that "Magic" to you Jarrett...............<:) 
 
(4) There will need to be 1 extra stud hole drilled from the married "Renesis" pump housing
      through the re-engineered "Mistral" hsg that mates up with a threaded boss in the 93-99
     13BREW , Cosmo 13B & 20B and Renesis front side hsg................This boss does not
     exist on the 86-91 13B which the "Mistral" back-plate was designed for...........
 
      These are the major things I have identified so far and I am sure there will be others...... I still
do not know what exactly to do about the removable front cover of the "Mistral" hsg........Whether
to try and retain a smaller cover by eliminating the auxiliary drive portion of the cover or just to do
a simplified  copy (easier to cast compared to the pressure cast "Renesis" hsg) of the center
part of the "Renesis" hsg to try and retain the EFI/IGN sensor mount.......... 
 
      Enough for now...........This will give you some info to mull over.................I will try to get a few
photos to illustrate some of what is above.............
.
Best Regards,     
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Back-plate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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