X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.136] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4953796 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:46:56 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.136; envelope-from=bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2011 00:46:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.81] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2011 00:46:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2011 00:46:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 322554.24003.bm@omp1018.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 95194 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2011 00:46:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1303433179; bh=ba002rJeT2cPsCmCx3BgPSfSTsHHWSnuW7Ex7OCVXss=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=s4gJC9Vgn/KLHhWHnovMUNr/vwFfSXRTf/thdtbYyww6qB4EfEWvWHTK/8DaftDc++QkgVmm/HCvxy0gxeheX2JhrxoMcMOnHgZ33AK8RoUQyn9R4fNV7zhkNK7xhZ7qBgDr8n33bTpCJpaad1RYmEg+belhS6Tpv2tqnantjlo= Received: from acer7fbfa7e2f7 (bryanwinberry@98.88.76.196 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2011 17:46:18 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: OSuEAS2swBAaBd4uKxevNivslbMG7JXpWjAWZVmoYyRm6qcW_W2VUA-- X-YMail-OSG: HGdQBJ8VM1mZifj82aAH1XgiNaQ7lKQ.AWI0F3MR8..CNNp FiZ9AyALEI4devS_fbsMPHumoO_5bNI9iymYErIT8S_b9FXQYgoZQavFw3HG bgvJjP_0SjCfpZmEXhPJq2LwmJ__sU7O21LutRIZOFQuQVtbyUScdPU908O2 TfFUgJtbfLdN5nw.u9EE2K21IRmUuFcFYxUunGy4QcSYhVbOVd4kDG8hRhD2 BuZPU1x2nazpHcHATtK1H0QhOF.rhUnnIckEIhFPx3k0.nYCh6HEx_pvClUD VzwCuuWsmi_Nq74q6RS9gA45k28gogUsxEZpn.FciTZRzRA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Bryan Winberry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Fw: Mistral 'Like' Intake Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:46:11 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F8_01CC0065.26AFBCD0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Thread-Index: AcwAhGu6gNMoSj5wQcminXhFMDPOLAAAhAKw This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01CC0065.26AFBCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jarrett, I have all of these pieces and can send them to you (with the exception of the housing) if you need the physical specimen. Bryan _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:29 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: Mistral 'Like' Intake From: Kelly Troyer To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 7:03:57 PM Subject: Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake Jarrett, Here are a few pertinet photos...........Will post more............. Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo _____ From: Kelly Troyer To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 5:53:14 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake Jarret, I will try to get some better photos of both housings.............I have several I took while doing the small amount of machine work (milling machine) to adapt the Mistral back-plate to my 13B front hsg but they may not be detailed enough for your needs and a good rear view of the Mistral 13B with water-pump and alternator.........I have determined that the Renesis front hsg appears to be a direct bolt on to the 93-99 13BREW and the Japanese Cosmo 13B and 20B with only 2 existing machined pads that have to be drilled and threaded for 8mm studs............The main possible conflict that I have eyeballed may be if the left side of the Renesis water-pump comes too close to the top left (from the cockpit) mount ear or the mount itself......That possible problem might be surmounted by adjusting the pump position slightly with computer magic..........The problem with moving the pump position using the Renesis pump is the studs do not move and might end up in the middle of the pump.............If that is the case a pump closer to the size and shape of the Mistral pump would need to be sourced............This conversion would need to use the Renesis frt hub, pulley and timing wheel plus the ignition pickup sensor................The Renesis frt hsg will bolt to the 86-91 13B but lacks the afore mentioned machined bolt pads and would lose an important stud next to the top left mount ear and one further down the hsg that is not as critical for structural integrity.............Will send what photos I have in another post as I am not on my home computer........... Best Regards, Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo _____ ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01CC0065.26AFBCD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jarrett,

 I have all of these pieces = and can send them to you (with the exception of the housing) if you need the physical = specimen.

Bryan

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
Sent: Thursday, April 21, = 2011 8:29 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: = Mistral 'Like' Intake

 

 

 From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 = 7:03:57 PM
Subject: Re: Mistral = 'Like' Intake

Jarrett,

   Here are a few pertinet = photos...........Will post more.............

 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA = JD2" = (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E= 50 Turbo

 

 

From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 = 5:53:14 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Mistral 'Like' Intake

Jarret,

    I will try to get some better = photos of both housings.............I have several I took

while doing the small amount of machine work (milling machine) to adapt the Mistral

back-plate to my 13B front hsg but they may not be = detailed enough for your needs 

and a good rear view of the Mistral 13B with = water-pump and alternator.........I have

determined that the Renesis front hsg appears to be a = direct bolt on to the 93-99

13BREW and the Japanese Cosmo 13B and 20B with only 2 existing machined pads

that have to be drilled and threaded for 8mm studs............The main possible conflict

that I have eyeballed may be if the left side of the = Renesis water-pump comes too

close to the top left (from the cockpit) mount ear or = the mount itself......That possible

problem might be surmounted by adjusting the pump = position slightly with computer

magic..........The problem with moving the pump = position using the Renesis pump is

the studs do not move and might end up in the middle = of the pump.............If that is

the case a pump closer to the size and shape of the = Mistral pump would need to be

sourced............This conversion would need to use = the Renesis frt hub, pulley and

timing wheel plus the ignition pickup sensor................The Renesis frt hsg will bolt = to

the 86-91 13B but lacks the afore mentioned machined = bolt pads and would lose an

important stud next to the top left mount ear and one further down the hsg that is not

as critical for structural integrity.............Will = send what photos I have in another post

as I am not on my home = computer...........

 

Best Regards,

 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E= 50 Turbo

 

 

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