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I agree Charlie, a better way to mount the block is needed, that is product #2 that would be looked at[after the intake]. Sorta a 'walk first'
deal. All this ties into my wish to use a rotary in the near future. I see it as stuff that 'I want/need' so if I do, then I'm sure there are others
that would be interested also.
Once I get this deal w/ the two jobs figured out things will start to get mapped out.
Jarrett Johnson
www.innovention-tech.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:27 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral 'Like' Intake
> Hi Jarrett,
>
> Until a couple of months ago, I would have been *very* interested
> in a
> replacement accessory housing with Lyc-style conical or dynafocal
> mount
> ears on it. I think that an affordable adapter allowing use of a
> 'stock'
> motor mount that comes with <insert a/c of choice here> would do
> more
> for rotaries than any other single 'piece' of after-market gear.
> It
> means one less thing to fabricate, and the Lyc style mount gets
> all the
> structure away from the engine, freeing up volume for heat
> exchangers,
> intake, exhaust, etc.
>
> A housing that could use the stock water pump & oil pump would be
> ideal
> (unlike the Mistral piece), to minimize cost. My vote would be for
> the
> Renesis.
>
> Just a thought....
>
> Charlie
>
> On 4/20/2011 6:14 PM, H & J Johnson wrote:
> >
> > *Thanks Bryan, when looking at something of this nature, it's
> always
> > the chicken and egg thing! At some point *
> >
> > *I'd love to own a rotary powered a/c so there is some
> additional
> > motivation over building a product. *
> >
> > **
> >
> > *The best senario is to get my hands on an existing manifold and
> then
> > laser scan it [I've got the equipment to do this, it's the*
> >
> > *'getting hands on' part that might be more difficult]. Once
> I've done
> > that it's a pretty straight forward move*
> >
> > *to make a similar product. There are most likely some changes
> that
> > would be incurred to improve it as well as change it such*
> >
> > *that it's not an 'exact' copy, as well as make it fit our
> > experimental uses directly. The ability to also integrate to
> fit
> > differnt *
> >
> > *makes and models of short block is also an advantage **as I see
> it as
> > a two pc product.*
> >
> > *As far as retail price range I think your spot on, it'd be
> great to
> > have it on the market for inside of $500 however, that might be
> a bit
> > 'bullish'.*
> >
> > *It is certainly a target to shoot for. If everything goes as
> planned
> > it will move forward and if there is a market, it's there for it.*
> >
> > *My biggest barrier to getting started here and now is getting
> my
> > hands on a sample.... :) *
> >
> > *Jarrett Johnson*
> >
> > *www.innovention-tech.com <http://www.innovention-tech.com> *
> >
> > *----- Original Message -----*
> >
> > *From*: Bryan Winberry <bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net> *Date*:
> > Wednesday, April 20, 2011 5:02 pm *Subject*: [FlyRotary] Re:
> Mistral
> > Intake Documentation? > Jarrett,
> > >
> > > I'm certainly interested in a manifold. I recall the mistral one
> > > going for
> > > quite a lot. Obviously the more you can sell, the less you have
> > > to ask for
> > > them.
> > >
> > > What sort of investment is required to produce say ten units? I'm
> > > thinking5-700 dollars(sales price), but then again, I like a
> > > bargain. Also it
> > > depends on how much profit you feel you need to make.
> > >
> > > I hope I haven't insulted you. But I have no clue as to how much
> > > goes into
> > > cooking up one of these.
> > >
> > > I have a Renesis if you're looking for a test bed.
> > >
> > > Bryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> > > Behalf Of H & J Johnson
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:14 PM
> > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Intake Documentation?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So it's possible that I've missed the question [I'm a bit behind
> > > on my
> > > emails] but is there a market for a Mistral type intake manifold
> > > system?I'm in the process of finalizing a casting furnace and
> > > foundry setup and
> > > have been looking at various projects in and around rotary
> > > engines. Intake
> > > manifolds have been at the top of the list. I own the needed CNC
> > > equipmentto build the molds and patterns for a project of this
> > > level, it's always
> > > just been a issue of time to dedicate to the project.
> > >
> > > Recently I was given an opportunity to have more time to do on
> > > projects like
> > > this [stop working two jobs and have multiple days off to do stuff
> > > like this
> > > with a reasonably flexible schedule]
> > >
> > > I'm curious as to the demand for a reasonably priced manifold?
> > > [Also, in the
> > > end customers mind, what would be 'reasonably priced'?]
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > > Jarrett Johnson
> > >
> > > www.innovention-tech.com <http://www.innovention-tech.com/>
> > >
> > >
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