X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-qy0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTPS id 4952633 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:08:25 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.180; envelope-from=david.staten@gmail.com Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so708920qyk.4 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:07:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=Il7fgyyYE/kDmBYCYSlvif3rzTXU15W6W3wVtAc/r1I=; b=nMgbkOOEpfYc+TnTjD9SpMLuvxM2GfGnXlZvShjK4XtyCv6KC5krHdGAVOlZO9Cu79 YDMbl/hI9jyNghDbhULvZwzvzFSfdwxA6b6VI+lsIAwsAAsuZQsAwAcbPP2ddL/Z1bAS nU4LpV5pcxg7bVzrDcS4nra31+kOgDNhTXjVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=mcvVRCqNNI1WlocR3SNW/mTYNjcd0LL3Hy87Xk3N4YXDFJNp/HOFwBxlafuR8vdx6B Dq/1RcucbQhVKyYTNHE6HZEZrqgC4hIz4NF8/PxrR2A8/5AnPDiST37uRbOATCQndC4m cCC7J7aCRRPucYDri67SSoja8tcfcuVQTKAP4= Received: by 10.224.137.17 with SMTP id u17mr5210085qat.185.1303344469897; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.80.140.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c27sm992119qck.46.2011.04.20.17.07.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DAF7552.1070009@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:46 -0500 From: Dave User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Intake Documentation? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000207080506000906050601" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000207080506000906050601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think the invoice was for $2200 total, freight and shipping from France. Dave On 4/20/2011 6:59 PM, Chris Barber wrote: > > I am certain Dave Staten will jump in to correct me, but I believe the > Mistral Intake we got was priced in the low $2000.00 range plus > shipping from the Continent. > > When Mistral presented the opportunity to get the intake several years > ago we jumped at it. The intake was the one major missing link in the > rotary conversion that was not already really available "off the > shelf". At the time Bruce Turintine had stated he wanted to introduce > an intake but it turned into vapor ware. > > While both Dave and I are pretty bright and have developed skills, the > idea of fabricating an efficient intake was most likely beyond us. > > I would very much like to see a more readily available "off the shelf" > intake on the market. I dislike the fact that if something were to > happen to my current one I have no place to turn. Yeah, I know the > odds of an intake (at least this type) failing is slim, I still feel a > bit trapped. > > I may even be inclined to by a back up. > > Chris > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on > behalf of Bryan Winberry [bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:02 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Intake Documentation? > > Jarrett, > > I’m certainly interested in a manifold. I recall the mistral one > going for quite a lot. Obviously the more you can sell, the less you > have to ask for them. > > What sort of investment is required to produce say ten units? I’m > thinking 5-700 dollars(sales price), but then again, I like a > bargain. Also it depends on how much profit you feel you need to make. > > I hope I haven’t insulted you. But I have no clue as to how much goes > into cooking up one of these. > > I have a Renesis if you’re looking for a test bed. > > Bryan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > *On Behalf Of *H & J Johnson > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:14 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Intake Documentation? > > So it's possible that I've missed the question [I'm a bit behind on my > emails] but is there a market for a Mistral type intake manifold > system? I'm in the process of finalizing a casting furnace and > foundry setup and have been looking at various projects in and around > rotary engines. Intake manifolds have been at the top of the list. I > own the needed CNC equipment to build the molds and patterns for a > project of this level, it's always just been a issue of time to > dedicate to the project. > > Recently I was given an opportunity to have more time to do on > projects like this [stop working two jobs and have multiple days off > to do stuff like this with a reasonably flexible schedule] > > I'm curious as to the demand for a reasonably priced manifold? [Also, > in the end customers mind, what would be 'reasonably priced'?] > > Best Regards > > Jarrett Johnson > > www.innovention-tech.com > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --------------000207080506000906050601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think the invoice was for $2200 total, freight and shipping from France.

Dave

On 4/20/2011 6:59 PM, Chris Barber wrote:

I am certain Dave Staten will jump in to correct me, but I believe the Mistral Intake we got was priced in the low $2000.00 range plus shipping from the Continent.

 

When Mistral presented the opportunity to get the intake several years ago we jumped at it.  The intake was the one major missing link in the rotary conversion that was not already really available "off the shelf".  At the time Bruce Turintine had stated he wanted to introduce an intake but it turned into vapor ware.

 

While both Dave and I are pretty bright and have developed skills, the idea of fabricating an efficient intake was most likely beyond us.

 

I would very much like to see a more readily available "off the shelf" intake on the market.  I dislike the fact that if something were to happen to my current one I have no place to turn.  Yeah, I know the odds of an intake (at least this type) failing is slim, I still feel a bit trapped.

 

I may even be inclined to by a back up.

 

Chris

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of Bryan Winberry [bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:02 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Intake Documentation?

Jarrett,

I’m certainly interested in a manifold.  I recall the mistral one going for quite a lot.  Obviously the more you can sell, the less you have to ask for them.  

What sort of investment is required to produce say ten units?  I’m thinking 5-700 dollars(sales price), but then again, I like a bargain.  Also it depends on how much profit you feel you need to make.

I hope I haven’t insulted you.  But I have no clue as to how much goes into cooking up one of these.

I have a Renesis if you’re looking for a test bed.

Bryan     

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of H & J Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:14 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Intake Documentation?

 

So it's possible that I've missed the question [I'm a bit behind on my emails] but is there a market for a Mistral type intake manifold system?  I'm in the process of finalizing a casting furnace and foundry setup and have been looking at various projects in and around rotary engines. Intake manifolds have been at the top of the list. I own the needed CNC equipment to build the molds and patterns for a project of this level, it's always just been a issue of time to dedicate to the project.

Recently I was given an opportunity to have more time to do on projects like this [stop working two jobs and have multiple days off to do stuff like this with a reasonably flexible schedule]

I'm curious as to the demand for a reasonably priced manifold? [Also, in the end customers mind, what would be 'reasonably priced'?]

Best Regards

Jarrett Johnson

www.innovention-tech.com 

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