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Thanks Bryan, when looking at something of this nature, it's always the chicken and egg thing! At some point

I'd love to own a rotary powered a/c so there is some additional motivation over building a product.

The best senario is to get my hands on an existing manifold and then laser scan it [I've got the equipment to do this, it's the

'getting hands on' part that might be more difficult]. Once I've done that it's a pretty straight forward move

to make a similar product. There are most likely some changes that would be incurred to improve it as well as change it such

that it's not an 'exact' copy, as well as make it fit our experimental uses directly. The ability to also integrate to fit differnt

makes and models of short block is also an advantage as I see it as a two pc product.

As far as retail price range I think your spot on, it'd be great to have it on the market for inside of $500 however, that might be a bit 'bullish'.

It is certainly a target to shoot for. If everything goes as planned it will move forward and if there is a market, it's there for it.

My biggest barrier to getting started here and now is getting my hands on a sample.... :)

Jarrett Johnson

www.innovention-tech.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Bryan Winberry <bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net>

Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 5:02 pm

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Intake Documentation?

> Jarrett,
>
> I'm certainly interested in a manifold. I recall the mistral one
> going for
> quite a lot. Obviously the more you can sell, the less you have
> to ask for
> them.
>
> What sort of investment is required to produce say ten units? I'm
> thinking5-700 dollars(sales price), but then again, I like a
> bargain. Also it
> depends on how much profit you feel you need to make.
>
> I hope I haven't insulted you. But I have no clue as to how much
> goes into
> cooking up one of these.
>
> I have a Renesis if you're looking for a test bed.
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> Behalf Of H & J Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:14 PM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Intake Documentation?
>
>
>
> So it's possible that I've missed the question [I'm a bit behind
> on my
> emails] but is there a market for a Mistral type intake manifold
> system?I'm in the process of finalizing a casting furnace and
> foundry setup and
> have been looking at various projects in and around rotary
> engines. Intake
> manifolds have been at the top of the list. I own the needed CNC
> equipmentto build the molds and patterns for a project of this
> level, it's always
> just been a issue of time to dedicate to the project.
>
> Recently I was given an opportunity to have more time to do on
> projects like
> this [stop working two jobs and have multiple days off to do stuff
> like this
> with a reasonably flexible schedule]
>
> I'm curious as to the demand for a reasonably priced manifold?
> [Also, in the
> end customers mind, what would be 'reasonably priced'?]
>
> Best Regards
>
> Jarrett Johnson
>
> www.innovention-tech.com <http://www.innovention-tech.com/>
>
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