X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm17-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.236.21] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4952395 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:33:19 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.236.21; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2011 19:32:46 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.115] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2011 19:32:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2011 19:32:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 138116.39304.bm@omp1020.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 74152 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2011 19:32:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1303327965; bh=95zBK3gP1Pdlv5X0Sjp8xiIWf/l1dxJSAJC3BmkoD30=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KcV82i+Cr9vAvSnYenyIXlAxjGgXyybpp2KjDaDjhPLYMIdUM/Mj07ha3iObPtlUIU/mj9L//g5q8wPo8TKjsp4ejI7SFTelR5CDoFGQ/I2g5caMGWW/VGQTdVxSy6JdFLATncI1p9t+GsfNVDoZ57RAjZbGGmUAHA5sGR3FmC4= Received: from [192.168.10.8] (ceengland@98.95.241.54 with plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2011 12:32:45 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: uXJ_6LOswBCr8InijhYErvjWlJuRkoKPGNeiuu7PA.5wcGoy X-YMail-OSG: BHHS158VM1kg0.qVXvc_IAT_csWDTk09.r.kSyyq2ulFZzR orOl3cZH11ai8uVNpAreueUno1ho2fbIRHk_aI4JMgbdXSrhybFrMPOGjbnC oH_tutcuHh2362dFBFFx3CZKjtV3wjg_XzJqu.9hk8bT.7l82_ZBfCd94.9t Ou7pN_waVTtLcI_7lJy82AYrNuvVic.RBtr9FN_PXs4DfhadAZa5qUKUuIY. QK8NOgs_QmsPlWp5LJdUeTrkcP1FrH2G7iwcY9atINHDvuXHFko86kKQ8O2F sb1VF_PiFibDvySamLEJ0GaMBarhLY2FNzR2fePQpaSwfanNzpzeGbk5QIcC CiViO38umNck9jez. X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4DAF34E2.8070307@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:32:50 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: My Mistral Engine Status References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wouldn't claim to have any hands-on experience with running a rotary (except in cars), but 'normal' internal combustion engine EGTs would go up as you lean, to a point, but should then start dropping as you continue to lean. If your 'lean' setting is too rich, that might explain both high EGT & high fuel consumption relative to HP. In my rather feeble mind (based on conventional a/c engine experience), I'd expect 'rich' to yield slightly lower than max EGT for full power operation, and 'lean' to yield significantly lower than max EGT for cruise power settings. Unfortunately, no constructive thoughts on how to remedy the situation if you're running Mistral's controller.... Charlie On 4/20/2011 11:08 AM, Steve Thomas wrote: > Thanks for the comments, Tracy. I do indeed have mismatched EGTs. Rotor 1 is running at 1800 or a little higher and rotor 2 is running at 1700, lean, 60% power. Rotor 2 is consistently 100 or more degrees cooler than rotor 1. While the upper temperatures may be OK, the Mistral ECU reports a critical condition and drives me nuts. But, the mismatch is the concern. I get a warning indication at about 1700 and a critical indication at ~1780. > > I do not have a variable mixture control. All I have is a rich/lean momentary switch. So, only two conditions. But the lean condition always increases the EGTs by a good 100 degrees. > > My exhaust is also 321 SS, .065 wall. So, I'm not worried about that. > > Best Regards, > > Steve Thomas > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > On Apr 20, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Tracy wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> When you say your EGTs are too high, what do you consider too hot? When at WOT on takeoff mine run 1840 F which sounds high but after 1800+ hours I'm convinced that this isn't too hot. In cruise I lean it down to as low as 1520. My exhaust system is 321 SS, nothing exotic. >> >> If your EGT problem is due to a clogged injector it will be obvious by very mis-matched EGTs. Unless of course you have two partly clogged injectors which is very unlikely. >> >> BTW, do you have a manual mixture control on the Mistral system? > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >