Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #54585
From: Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Tangential Muffler
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:56:23 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Mark: Thanks...I was wondering if it would make it even quieter with less risk of destroying it
Tom Giddings
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On Apr 20, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Mark Steitle wrote:

Tom,
 
If you're running a turbo you shouldn't need a muffler.  The turbo serves the purpose of the muffler.
 
Mark

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net> wrote:
 Would a turbo charged application be less of problem with a muffler?


Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Hardy Roberts Dr
PO Box 219
West Paducah,KY 42086
877-904 9966
Cell; 727 858-1772
FAX:270 744 3466
tom@midwestaviation.net


On Apr 20, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Steve Thomas wrote:

Al, 

I'd love to have a good tangential solution.  Mistral had developed one before they declared bankruptcy.  But, their engineer told me that they were loosing at least 5 HP with it.  So, if I am ignorant, I am happy to be corrected.  

I presume that you have shared your design before?  Can I find in in the archives?  I am not a welder, so I have to hire any welding that needs to be done, so the cost of an Inconel device will be quite pricy, I presume.  

Burns Stainless wrote back to me and wants me to send the failed muffler to them for analyses.  Should be interesting.  

Best Regards,

Steve Thomas

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On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Al Gietzen wrote:

Steve wrote:

 

3.  At 50% power, my fuel flow is 11 GPH rich and 9GPH lean.
This doesn’t seem right – at 50% power my 20B will run 9-10 gph leaned.

 

The tangential style mufflers are too power-robbing
My 20B got 265 hp at 6300 rpm on the dyno with the tangential muffler and secondary resonator. With 9.0 : 1 rotors and normally aspirated that’s not all bad.
But perhaps more importantly I now have 213 hour on the inconel tangential and 321 SS secondary; and they are still in good condition. And it is reasonably quiet.
Al G

 





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