X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.140] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4947322 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:00:08 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.213.140; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2011 15:59:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.236] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2011 15:59:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2011 15:59:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 432562.8967.bm@omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33976 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2011 15:59:32 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (echristley@65.190.53.180 with plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2011 08:59:32 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 40RP3pGswBDvPav1a.I8eMv.KS8bdgWBnCloVoKaow-- X-YMail-OSG: 3fOibG0VM1mY2cn7hYYooEh987i8WHeU6zuAy5yfeGo3Eps K4bT4f5na4uslvq2NXDeQJreMXAobTkCvszGUI3K5i7Yv2jeh7.Po11CQbeL H4WXB9Z_1GQvIr7a8ZUNhq_aR1h167DA_jMPWYibDDoYZchvHGP3ub8fWlxc JLbjMf6T1xrVcoWxK9k0QyArshB5HV7yR7GaXnSaGUhs4ZfST9NEfjOdCOSS pUytYGWcevhCNhH89FkV_YzsZY_65kxLkbiEa5cXgzIjqcBN629LrC0uqr7y YPp0hzpNenvNFJiN3X.VI6Vg.Uu7dwQvXDa8ziMuPTFVQUYVIkipmgLfquHg i2w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4DA86B58.2000402@nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:59:20 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@att.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: Help with timing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After a week of fiddling, tweaking, figuring, and mangling, I've finally determined that my timing was set correctly when I put the engine together in the first place. A weeks work, and nothing has changed mechanically, but I now have 100% confidence that my timing is set correctly. I drilled out a spark plug and used some 2-cycle oil in a clear hose. (Didn't have any ATF handy, Lynn. But the 2-cycle was dark blue.) I quickly found the null point, and was disgusted with myself that the timing gear was off by 40 DEGREES!! How could have have screwed it up THAT badly? I was in the process of deconstructing the timing gear, when I decided to check one more time. I hope this nugget save someone a week in the future. If you use the air pressure method of determining TDC, there are TWO (2) null spots for each rotation of the crankshaft. One will be where the apex seal is visible, or close to being visible, through the spark plug holes. That isn't the one. You want the one where the rotor recess is at the spark plug hole. The former is MUCH easier to find than the latter. Once I figured out this little brain fart, it was quite easy to see that the plugs were firing very close to perfect, 22 degree BTDC without ECU control.