X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com ([209.85.161.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTPS id 4946127 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:18:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.52; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1152384fxm.25 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:17:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ormNUf+5dhhtNp2X/dkDrxbnqYWE8qlqiHEXPg3ObpY=; b=DB56SoaF4zrOwoZUJkKroI/Z6EqXgxD6GJ2AHdE5+FwEGKZtAhp5XuhrENOKiolL9h eJ3j2DQ4dV5odTsAClBnt4g25KGSgir3VbkKa/kPXxVGJKpcyhJ2bjIHJ1ijBFMMEIZT tnsFzeA/fpTczKcGG56uB48KDSHTG8VKUbriI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KpW+WFvLhiWC2NqCacgT6uazT14Cnd67B6Tlrs6O/2kEDSMaiAazsK3soKLHDahoWZ DUggWiDxK8V1SuQB7kDdFliUMcvjqoNJcQB9+ltpZxPf+MconthL80n0Bo+X+/icxYY5 7odUJWoDoy64impYi4obsJJUSPnWsxURK2lwo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.74.83 with SMTP id t19mr775714faj.149.1302787075342; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.102.141 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:17:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:17:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling of the BIG IRON From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6e352d8037204a0e0c01b --000e0cd6e352d8037204a0e0c01b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ed, Oh, so that's where you learned your excellent engine-out glide skills. Mark On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: > Ah, Yes, > > Many a take off in the B-52 fortress ( and one in the KC-135 tanker) on a > Hot Oklahoma day took a lot of water being injected into the engines to give > sufficient thrust to get airborne. In fact, failure of the water injection > system on certain hot days required aborting the take off. > > Ed > > *From:* Lehanover@aol.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:07 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling of the BIG IRON > > Well done Mr. Anderson. > > That 50/50 mixture was also ingested by big radials in military power for > cooling and anti detonation. > > Same for early pure jets where it was added to add mass to the exhaust flow > on take off. > > Lynn E. Hanover > > In a message dated 4/13/2011 10:23:40 A.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, > eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes: > > I came across a study looking at ways to cool aircraft racing engines (for > the BIG iron), makes some interesting reading as they look at EVERY way to > cool a race engine including sacrificial boiling off (phase change) of an > expendable liquid as well as spray bar cooling, etc. > > > --000e0cd6e352d8037204a0e0c01b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed,=A0

Oh, so that's where you learned your excellen= t engine-out glide skills. =A0

Mark

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolin= a.rr.com> wrote:
Ah, Yes,
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Many a take off in the B-52 fortress ( and one in the= KC-135=20 tanker) on a Hot Oklahoma day took a lot of water being injected into the= =20 engines to give sufficient thrust to get airborne.=A0 In fact, failure of t= he=20 water injection system on certain hot days required aborting the take=20 off.
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Ed

Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:07 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <= /div>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling of the BIG IRON

Well done Mr. Anderson.
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That 50/50 mixture was also ingested by big radials in military power = for=20 cooling and anti detonation.
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Same for early pure jets where it was added to add mass to the exhaust= flow=20 on take off.
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Lynn E. Hanover
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In a message dated 4/13/2011 10:23:40 A.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, eanderson@carol= ina.rr.com=20 writes:
I came across a study looking at ways to cool a= ircraft=20 racing engines (for the BIG iron), makes some interesting reading as they= look=20 at EVERY way to cool a race engine including sacrificial boiling off (pha= se=20 change) of an expendable liquid as well as spray bar cooling,=20 etc.
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