X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [64.129.170.194] (HELO VIRCOM1.fcdata.private) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTP id 4633232 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 23:16:44 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from fcd-mail06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:40b::404:40b]) by FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:40b::404:40b]) with mapi; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 22:15:48 -0600 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Today I am a man! Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Today I am a man! Thread-Index: AQHLlX3txpnjkdDmQUaq7pSRtaid7pOV8hyS Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 04:14:36 +0000 Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30349DCBD5@FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30349DCBD5FCDMAIL06FCDATA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30349DCBD5FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kelly, I don't know what my EGT's were when I ran it up the other day. My EGT read= ings have not been working properly and I have yet to determine why or a so= lution as of yet. Chris ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = Kelly Troyer [keltro@att.net] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:43 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Today I am a man! Way to go Chris !!..........I (years ago) needed to learn to weld for my "= Dyke Delta" project (which is a weldors nightmare)...............The Delta was so intimidating that I cho= ose to build a "Cassutt" first which is a much smaller welding job to hone my welding skills..............= .....I like you found Gas / Oxy welding skills were relatively easy to pick up and surprise "Enjoyable"....= ...I have since also acquired a "Lincoln" 175 tig and found this skill easy to pickup as it is similar to= Gas/Oxy with a different heat source............. On a different note did you notice what your EGT reading was at 6450 rpm an= d 34.5 MAP ??.......... Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2Gas/Oxy "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo ________________________________ From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 11:06:45 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Today I am a man! Well, yesterday actually. I completed the EAA Sport Air workshop yesterday= on Welding. While I know the Gas Oxy method it just a BIT antiquated by a= ll the new stuff, the class removed much of the mystery involved. I was am= azed at the progress made in just two days. From dripped, blotchy beads, t= o "not all that bad", somewhat consistent beads. I know it is not much of a leap for many of y'all, but I always felt quite = lacking not having a base understanding of the process (videos and books ju= st do not breach the gap). Now I will be looking for a Tig course, or even= , now with a basic comprehension, even a friends input. The Velocity is no= t a big welded craft, but there were a few things I would at least have ent= ertained, even if I would have farmed them out anyway. On the rotary front, since I dedicated a bus for just the EM2/EC2 and reins= talled the units in the plane (currently using Rino's old unit since the wi= ring is correct for it...my unit has a pin difference being a later unit), = I am currently NOT having my tach dropping out at 6000 rpm (so far). Last = night I did a quick run up after leaving from the welding class and ran up = to 6450 rmp static at about 34.5 MAP. I had trouble holding it with the br= akes...and this was on rough asphalt. I hope to get out there in a bit and= do some tuning and RE-determine best cranking settings. It is starting qu= ickly when cold at full rich mixture. Gotta keep it a full mixture for a f= ew minutes till it warms. However, it is taking quite a bit of fudging aro= und to get it to start hot. Per Mistral, my injectors are large so I think= I may need to go leaner (about 10 o' clock currently) when hot...or so my= preliminary feeling is such. For those who are not there yet, you pretty = much have to start over with base mapping every time you get your units bac= k from Tracy. Of course, I am getting much better at it...... ;-) All the best, Chris Barber Houston, Texas Velocity 13b turbo with Mistral intake --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30349DCBD5FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kelly,
 
I don't know what my EGT's were when I = ran it up the other day. My EGT readings have not been w= orking properly and I have yet to determine why or a solution as of yet.
 
Chris
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary= @lancaironline.net] on behalf of Kelly Troyer [keltro@att.net]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:43 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Today I am a man!

Way to go Chris !!..........I  (years ago) needed to learn t= o weld for my "Dyke Delta" project (which is
a weldors nightmare)...............The Delta was so intimidating that = I choose to build a  "Cassutt" first 
which is a much smaller welding job to hone my welding skills.........= ..........I like you found Gas / Oxy
welding skills were relatively easy to pick up and surprise "Enjo= yable".......I have since also acquired
a "Lincoln" 175 tig and found this skill easy to pickup= as it is similar to Gas/Oxy with a different heat
source.............
 
On a different note did you notice what your EGT reading was at 6450 r= pm and 34.5 MAP ??..........     
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2Gas/Oxy
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo


From: Chris Barber <cbar= ber@texasattorney.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircra= ft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010= 11:06:45 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Today = I am a man!

Well, yesterday actually.  I completed th= e EAA Sport Air workshop yesterday on Welding.  While I know th= e Gas Oxy method it just a BIT antiquated by all the new stuff, the class removed much of the mystery involved.  I was amazed at the = progress made in just two days.  From dripped, blotchy beads, to "= ;not all that bad", somewhat consistent b= eads. 
 
I know it is not much of a leap for many of y'all, but I always felt q= uite lacking not having a base understanding of the process (videos and boo= ks just do not breach the gap).  Now I will be looking for a Tig<= a rel=3D"nofollow"> course, or even, now with a basic comprehension, even a friends input.&nbs= p; The Velocity is not a big welded craft, but there were a few things I&nb= sp;would at least have entertained, even if I would= have farmed them out anyway.
 
On the rotary front, since I dedicated a bus for just the EM2/EC2 and reinstalled the units in the plane (currently usi= ng Rino's old unit since the wiring is correct for it...my unit has a pin difference= being a later unit), I am currently NOT having my tach dropping out at 6000 rpm (so fa= r).  Last night I did a quick run up after leaving from the welding class and ran up to 6450 rmp= static at about 34.5 MAP.  I had trouble hold= ing it with the brakes...and this was on rough asphalt.  I hope to get= out there in a bit and do some tuning and RE-determine best cranking settings.  It is starting quickly when cold at full rich mixture.  Gotta keep it a full mixture for a few minutes till= it warms.  However, it is taking quite a bit of fudging around to get it to start hot.  Per Mistral, my injectors are large so I thi= nk I may need to go leaner (about 10 o' clock currently)  when ho= t...or so my preliminary feeling is such.  For those who are not there= yet, you pretty much have to start over with base mapping every time you get your units back from Tracy.  Of = course, I am getting much better at it...... ;-)
 
All the best,
 
Chris Barber
Houston, Texas
Velocity 13b turb= o with Mistral intake
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