X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ey0-f180.google.com ([209.85.215.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4600581 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 19:30:37 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.180; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by eyf18 with SMTP id 18so5775731eyf.25 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:30:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZTcbMl+MJTO00Ck2y7RCo21NfP5/A4jL7uTBzcVArbY=; b=b3jwXDffLqWoAYF2Q10hG7DC1bifNyxOboSr5IUwEz7pMhnq/QDcOcOm03Dc7ydPAV j2vxzx8OnrB1Bzh72W7wnVx78vFHyJw5jh8lXU4OaUC905U4QojhZTrDrVo4hu3HNaon dDHKhhp9+xDKMrsQPX73OSfdlDSV4vkbl4Ffc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gq9dsCnd71cR8g4PNXncqF0a7nuI9TnTFzxUvz4m3/PjBC9IVgxb65qMdhqc/L66hI 8hF1dnvBFHA2usJMYt+1f/mjJjvqIyqLTg3B2eD4nX2L43m97EXrqfnR2m9qAZOXl+Hl daWm2OsmnteDQ3oY4vS/u3hIUiLFbMe/kstAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.98.69 with SMTP id p5mr177340ebn.23.1291336200911; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.108.133 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:30:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:30:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Renesis (modified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg weight From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c13c68a7d74049676a3f9 --0015174c13c68a7d74049676a3f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No change in temps that I can tell. On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > Mark, > After installing the Renesis pump have your coolent temps in flight had > any notable > changes compared to the stock 20B pump ?................Since the Renesis > pump was > optimized for a 13B and its volume pumped is probable slightly > less............... > > > Kelly Troyer > *"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)* > > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Mark Steitle > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Thu, December 2, 2010 4:39:10 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Renesis (modified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg > weight > > Chrissi, > > Or, you could save the weight of the thermostat adapter by welding a couple > of 90's directly to the wp housing. > > Mark > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ---- >> *From:* "CozyGirrrl@aol.com" >> *To:* keltro@att.net >> *Sent:* Thu, December 2, 2010 4:09:39 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Renesis (modified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg weight >> >> Will do. We bought a second housing last night and will be doing the same >> mod to it since we are fresh from doing the first one. (vendor has one left >> now) Its some serious band saw work at first, then some creative band saw >> work and finally an air die grinder with rotary files in it. >> Be sure to include the weight of the I/O manifold you have to add to make >> it functional so you are comparing evenly. We have the I/O manifold surface >> modeled and will machine one after we finish the new intake manifold flange. >> ...Chrissi >> >> In a message dated 12/2/2010 3:59:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> keltro@att.net writes: >> >> Mark ,Cosy Girrrls and Group, >> Managed to get to my project for a day (Sure beats >> caretaking)!!...............Took my >> handy dandy "Harbor Freight" electronic scale (weighs up to 70 >> lb).............The 86-88 >> 13B pump & hsg (minus pulley) was 8lbs 3oz...............The 89-91 13B >> pump & hsg >> (with pulley) was 10lbs 2oz (could not remove pulley...metric tools 55 >> miles away)..... >> >> Mark do you recall the weight of your stock 20B pump and hsg >> ?........What did your >> modified Renesis pump and hsg (minus pulley) end up weighing after the >> addition of >> modified inlet/outlet and wiggins coupling fittings ?........... >> >> Cosy Girrrls when you have finished the modifications to your Renesis >> pump/hsg >> please report the weight to the group (for the record as all the group >> posts end up >> in the archives for all interested to search).............Photos would be >> helpful.......<:) >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Kelly Troyer >> *"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)* >> >> "13B ROTARY"_ Engine >> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 >> "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold >> >> "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo >> >> > --0015174c13c68a7d74049676a3f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No change in temps that I can tell.

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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
Mark,
=A0=A0 After installing the Renesis pump=A0have=A0your coolent=A0temps= in flight had any notable
changes compared to the stock 20B pump ?................Since the Rene= sis pump was
optimized for a 13B and its volume pumped=A0is probable slightly less.= ..............=A0
=A0

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"= MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo



From: Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com&g= t;
To: Rotary motors in a= ircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 = 4:39:10 PM
Subject: [FlyR= otary] Re: Fw: Renesis (modified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg weight

Chrissi,=20
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Or, you could save the weight of the thermostat adapter by welding a c= ouple of 90's directly to the wp housing.

Mark

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
=A0
=A0
----- Forwarded Message ----
= From: "CozyGirrrl@aol.com" <CozyGirrrl@aol.com>
To: keltro@att.net
Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:09:39 = PM
Subject: Re: Renesis (modifi= ed) verses 13B waterpump/hsg weight

Will do. We bought a second housing last night and will be doing the s= ame mod to it since we are fresh from doing the first one. (vendor has one = left now) Its some serious band saw work at first, then some creative band = saw work and finally an air die grinder with rotary files in it.
Be sure to include the weight of the I/O manifold you have to add to m= ake it functional so you are comparing evenly. We have the I/O manifold=A0s= urface modeled and will machine one after we finish the new intake manifold= flange.
...Chrissi
=A0
In a message dated 12/2/2010 3:59:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, keltro@att.= net writes:
Mark ,Cosy Girrrls=A0and Group,
=A0=A0=A0 Managed to get to my project for=A0a day=A0(Sure beats caret= aking)!!...............Took my
handy dandy "Harbor Freight" electronic scale (weighs up to = 70 lb).............The 86-88
13B pump & hsg (minus pulley) was 8lbs 3oz...............The 89-91= 13B pump & hsg
(with pulley) was 10lbs 2oz (could not remove pulley...metric tools 55= miles away).....
=A0
=A0=A0 Mark do you=A0recall the weight of your stock 20B pump and hsg = ?........What did your
modified Renesis pump and hsg (minus pulley) end up weighing after the= addition of
modified inlet/outlet and wiggins coupling fittings ?...........
=A0
=A0 Cosy Girrrls when you have finished the modifications to your Rene= sis pump/hsg
please report the weight to the group (for the record as all the group= posts end up
in the archives for all interested=A0 to search).............Photos wo= uld be helpful.......<:)
=A0
Thanks,=A0
=A0=A0=A0

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"= MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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