X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.202] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with SMTP id 4600514 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:04:39 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.202; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2010 23:04:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.53] by tm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2010 23:04:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2010 23:04:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 652286.85082.bm@omp1053.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17325 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Dec 2010 23:04:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1291331042; bh=CRw+dFkrLodOqoElH1CIupXm729H1DGwCuaJDppxMMA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P7ZIC56pHt0MNkA+1w4dcLQzzSiq8R9T2rZdXWkSc7Bak/kN03zRzVzLO0VIVd4DPvfWCcUKR3cX4Qym+d0d7g/4Yv/Udv/mDGMkFVKZGh1799I0QLVZrB+48uKw9vDMZSrn47McQxPqvzDqOKeOT829CVnNhifoiOP5xcfk8qM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HTAYt505/9NNZMqk7uQgb6WzsRLSNzLF3Coy8OqHzEN+pKvXo8tPHUGXOYqp6PYJlwZiwHzhLKQmIt9f1+C3YDQtmSxLWiHZg/HxhygrWZ7SDG1tJcQQjBQgXK3vjeDBMcUtifhqsyah5MP6x4bKDgMyYm0qbUXqXoTGbhz7D8s=; Message-ID: <335291.16973.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RFLyEoMVM1m.i2dJwEQndvYUzt_Qwz_EzVlyupJPQS3tf4q qHW82XpVkT1nCu00ifCiyg0QTrq7rh8Oro8r6JDFsOkR84KhO20_UzKX2vFY 6YBYLgvkr3O2.YuFowqVzF7VS.pjbUSKLq63iObKD_REayAv1R5.Lfcss3F6 yCixKpbZS8zKsIT5QkGNr5g9wIQiZPAMG3SrqLFnC7TLyP5f6TGj..nyWMcF N08l75vMyaCgnTFihyIq33JPZcJGdFY51GDMM3lKk4p08Mmz7YEyys1yaqSG SeYLXbvgkyQ-- Received: from [208.114.38.107] by web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:04:02 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:04:02 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Renesis (modified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg weight To: Rotary motors in aircraft Cc: CozyGirrrl@aol.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-750321268-1291331042=:16973" --0-750321268-1291331042=:16973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark,=0A=A0=A0 After installing the Renesis pump=A0have=A0your coolent=A0te= mps in flight had any =0Anotable=0Achanges compared to the stock 20B pump ?= ................Since the Renesis pump =0Awas=0Aoptimized for a 13B and its= volume pumped=A0is probable slightly =0Aless...............=A0=0A=A0=0AKel= ly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD= 1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Mark Steitle =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:39:10 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: R= enesis (modified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg weight=0A=0AChrissi, =0A=A0 =0AO= r, you could save the weight of the thermostat adapter by welding a couple = of =0A90's directly to the wp housing.=0A=0AMark=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Dec 2, 201= 0 at 4:23 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A=0A=0A>=0A>=0A>----- F= orwarded Message ----=0A>From: "CozyGirrrl@aol.com" =0A= >To: keltro@att.net=0A>Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:09:39 PM=0A>Subject: R= e: Renesis (modified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg weight=0A>=0A>Will do. We bo= ught a second housing last night and will be doing the same mod to =0A>it s= ince we are fresh from doing the first one. (vendor has one left now) Its = =0A>some serious band saw work at first, then some creative band saw work a= nd =0A>finally an air die grinder with rotary files in it. =0A>=0A>Be sure = to include the weight of the I/O manifold you have to add to make it =0A>fu= nctional so you are comparing evenly. We have the I/O manifold=A0surface mo= deled =0A>and will machine one after we finish the new intake manifold flan= ge.=0A>...Chrissi=0A>=0A>=0A>In a message dated 12/2/2010 3:59:42 P.M. Cent= ral Standard Time, keltro@att.net =0A>writes:=0A>Mark ,Cosy Girrrls=A0and G= roup,=0A>>=A0=A0=A0 Managed to get to my project for=A0a day=A0(Sure beats = =0A>>caretaking)!!...............Took my =0A>>=0A>>handy dandy "Harbor Frei= ght" electronic scale (weighs up to 70 =0A>>lb).............The 86-88=0A>>1= 3B pump & hsg (minus pulley) was 8lbs 3oz...............The 89-91 13B pump = & =0A>>hsg=0A>>(with pulley) was 10lbs 2oz (could not remove pulley...metri= c tools 55 miles =0A>>away).....=0A>>=0A>>=A0=A0 Mark do you=A0recall the w= eight of your stock 20B pump and hsg ?........What =0A>>did your=0A>>modifi= ed Renesis pump and hsg (minus pulley) end up weighing after the addition = =0A>>of=0A>>modified inlet/outlet and wiggins coupling fittings ?..........= .=0A>>=0A>>=A0 Cosy Girrrls when you have finished the modifications to you= r Renesis =0A>pump/hsg=0A>>please report the weight to the group (for the r= ecord as all the group posts end =0A>>up=0A>>in the archives for all intere= sted=A0 to search).............Photos would be =0A>>helpful.......<:)=0A>>= =0A>>Thanks,=A0=0A>>=A0=A0=A0=0A>>Kelly Troyer=0A>>"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventu= ally)=0A>>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>>"MISTRAL"_Backpla= te/Oil Manifold=0A>>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A --0-750321268-1291331042=:16973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Mark,
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   After installing th= e Renesis pump have your coolent temps in flight had any not= able
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changes compared to the stock 20B pump ?................S= ince the Renesis pump was
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optimized for a 13B and its volume p= umped is probable slightly less............... 
 
= =0A

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

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"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS= "_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_T= O4E50 Turbo

=0A

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=0AFrom:<= /B> Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironli= ne.net>
Sent: Thu, De= cember 2, 2010 4:39:10 PM
Subject:<= /SPAN> [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Renesis (modified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg = weight

Chrissi, =0A
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Or, you could save the= weight of the thermostat adapter by welding a couple of 90's directly to t= he wp housing.
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Mark

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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Kelly Troyer <= ;keltro@att.net> wrote:
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----- Forwarded Mess= age ----
From: "CozyGirrrl@aol.com" <CozyGirrrl@aol.com>
keltro@att.net
Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:09:39 PM<= BR>Subject: Re: Renesis (mo= dified) verses 13B waterpump/hsg weight

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Will do. We bought a second housing last nig= ht and will be doing the same mod to it since we are fresh from doing the f= irst one. (vendor has one left now) Its some serious band saw work at first= , then some creative band saw work and finally an air die grinder with rota= ry files in it.
=0A
Be sure to include the weight of the I/O mani= fold you have to add to make it functional so you are comparing evenly. We = have the I/O manifold surface modeled and will machine one after we fi= nish the new intake manifold flange.
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...Chrissi
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In a message dated 12/2/2010 = 3:59:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, keltro@att.ne= t writes:
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Mark ,Cosy Girrrls and Group,
=0A
    = Managed to get to my project for a day (Sure beats caretaking)!!.= ..............Took my
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handy dandy "Harbor Freight" electronic= scale (weighs up to 70 lb).............The 86-88
=0A
13B pump &am= p; hsg (minus pulley) was 8lbs 3oz...............The 89-91 13B pump & h= sg
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(with pulley) was 10lbs 2oz (could not remove pulley...metr= ic tools 55 miles away).....
=0A
 
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   = Mark do you recall the weight of your stock 20B pump and hsg ?........= What did your
=0A
modified Renesis pump and hsg (minus pulley) end= up weighing after the addition of
=0A
modified inlet/outlet and w= iggins coupling fittings ?...........
=0A
 
=0A
&nbs= p; Cosy Girrrls when you have finished the modifications to your Renesis pu= mp/hsg
=0A
please report the weight to the group (for the record a= s all the group posts end up
=0A
in the archives for all intereste= d  to search).............Photos would be helpful.......<:)
= =0A
 
=0A
Thanks, 
=0A
   =0A

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
= "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONETIC= S"_TO4E50 Turbo


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