X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4524901 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 10:05:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from fcd-mail06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:40b::404:40b]) by FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([::1]) with mapi; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 09:05:05 -0500 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Oil pressure norms Thread-Topic: Oil pressure norms Thread-Index: Actyu0pBRXALZqiBSmW6Jq3CtfVukg== Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:05:04 +0000 Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D303274E6ED@FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D303274E6EDFCDMAIL06FCDATA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D303274E6EDFCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As you may remember, a couple of weeks ago I lost most oil pressure. I dro= pped the pan and found the problem. I safety wired the culprit up and put = my engine back together and back on the back of the Velocity and cranked he= r up and got significant oil pressure as expected. I could see it pumping = freely out a hose I left open when I cranked the starter with pumps/coils/i= njectors off earlier. Now, my question is, what is considered correct oil pressure at different p= ower settings? Before when I ran the engine at idle (on my engine, usually= 1500 - 1650 rpm, my oil pressure would be around 33-35 psi. I remember th= is cuz, on my EM2 it is preset to start flashing an alert if the oil pressu= re goes below 35 psi, so I was always bumping up the idle a bit to keep it = from flashing the alert. Now, however, it seems that at about the same RPM I am getting only about 3= 0 ish PSI at the same RPM and have to rev up to about 2200 rpm to get the p= ressure to 35 or above. IIRC, when I apply power to about 6200 rpm the pre= ssure goes up to the mid 50's or a little more...maybe hitting 60. I had thought I read somewhere that the EM2 was set to alert on oil at 30, = but Tracy has had my unit a couple/few times, so I am thinking the 35 must = be correct for low pressure. I am still sorting some final engine details out and this was noticed. It does seem I have mostly gotten my hot start process worked out. No prim= e, mixture at about 2:30 and a few rotations it sputters alive. I think I = had been flooding it before. I also have to turn off the fans as the extra= energy seems to be needed to get it to spark up. I do think I need to rep= lace my batteries as I have kinda beat the hell out of these two. Cold sta= rt has never been much of a problem. Usually 4-6 primes and a bit of mixtu= re advance and it is usually good, throttle about half way open, then pull = back to idle once it engages. Perhaps I am killing the engine now with the different oil pressure, (new f= ilter, new oil) but the engine seems to be running damn strong otherwise. = Pretty cool now that the temps are only in the low 90's. I can bring power= up for much longer now that ramp temps are not in the 120's. ONE hose did have a small flap inside. I corrected this before I sent the = hoses off to be pressure tested....fwiw. As with many things, especially it seems with this engine, my only consiste= ncy is inconsistency. Back to the internet to see what else I can find out. All the best, Chris Houston, GSOT --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D303274E6EDFCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As you may remember, a couple of weeks ago I lost most oil pres= sure.  I dropped the pan and found the problem.  I safety= wired the culprit up and put my engine back together and b= ack on the back of the Velocity and cranked her up and got significant oil pressure as expected.  I could see it pumping fre= ely out a hose I left open when I cranked the starter with pumps/coils= /injectors off earlier.
 
Now, my question is, what is considered correct oil pressure at differ= ent power settings?  Before when I ran the engine at idle (on my engin= e, usually 1500 - 1650 rpm, my oil pressure would be around 33-35 psi. = ; I remember this cuz, on my EM2 it is preset to start flashing an aler= t if the oil pressure goes below 35 psi, so I was always bumping up the idl= e a bit to keep it from flashing the alert.
 
Now, however, it seems that at about the same RPM I am getting on= ly about 30 ish PSI at the same RPM and have to r= ev up to about 2200 rpm to get the pressure to 35 or above.  IIRC, when I apply power to about 6200 rpm the pressure goes up to the mid 50's or a li= ttle more...maybe hitting 60.
 
I had thought I read somewhere that the EM2 = was set to alert on oil at 30, but Tracy has had my unit a couple/few times= , so I am thinking the 35 must be correct for low pressure.
 
I am still sorting some final engine details out and this was noticed.=  
 
It does seem I have mostly gotten my hot start process wor= ked out.  No prime, mixture at about 2:30 and a few rotations it sputt= ers alive.  I think I had been flooding it before.  I also have t= o turn off the fans as the extra energy seems to be needed to get it to spark up.  I do think I need to replace my batter= ies as I have kinda beat the hell out of these tw= o.  Cold start has never been much of a problem.  Usually 4-6 pri= mes and a bit of mixture advance and it is usually good, throttle about half way open, then pull back to idle once it engages.
 
Perhaps I am killing the engine now with the different oil= pressure, (new filter, new oil) but the engine seems to be running damn st= rong otherwise.  Pretty cool now that the temps are only in the low 90= 's.  I can bring power up for much longer now that ramp temps are not in the 120's<= a>.
 
ONE hose did have a small flap inside.  I corrected this before I= sent the hoses off to be pressure tested....fwiw.
 
As with many things, especially it seems with this engine,= my only consistency is inconsistency.
 
Back to the internet to see what else I can find out.
 
All the best,
 
Chris
Houston, GSOT
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