Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #52501
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Another prop performance calculator
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 22:32:48 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Jeff, Wish I knew something about props, but it seems more black art than cooling ducts {:>).  Having 4 blades with a 74" dia and spinning 6100 rpm even with 58" pitch would appear to me to indicate a strong engine.  But, you are right, its really hard to compare apples and oranges.
 
We clearly saw a significant difference in performance between Sam's prop and mine - on his engine.  Sam was clearly delighted to be producing over 6000 - it would be nice to have a "Community Prop" that could be used as a relative calibration point.  I know if this prop swap had happened 3 months earlier, Sam would have been even happier {:>)
 
One thing that can give you a reality check is your fuel flow rate at 6100 rpm - to be producing 196 HP, your fuel flow rate should be around 19-20 GPH.  So unless your fuel flow rate is in that vicinity, its unlikely you are producing 196 HP - although, I would hazard a SWAG that that you may be close to 180 HP. 
 
A fuel burn rate for the rotary (rule of thumb) is that it take around 10 GPH flow rate to produce 100 HP.  So if your flow rate is say 15-16 GPH you are probably in the vicinity of 150-160 HP.  However, the rotary has shown the ability to flow more fuel than it can  use to produce useful power.  So a higher flow rate does not necessarily all translate into power, but lacking a portable dyno it’s a place to start.
 
Ed

Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:41 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Another prop performance calculator

Ed, with my prop numbers (74"x 58", 4 blades, 59F, 6100 engine rpm or 2140 prop rpm) entered into this calculator it says I'm making 196 hp static ... seems hard to believe.
I've always wondered what the difference is between 4 blades Vs 2 ... the same numbers with 2 blades gives 117 hp..
Also, my prop is a Warp Drive and the pitch is measured at the tip ... don't most prop manufacturers specify pitch at 75-80% of diameter?
Wish I had been in Paducah to bolt your prop on and see what happened ...
Jeff
 
 
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Another Prop Performance Calculator
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:06:16 -0400
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Here is a link to a STATIC performance calculator that seems to at least give reasonable results
 
 
I could turn 5800 rpm static when my prop was 76x88 which this calculator indicates the engine was producing 168.1 HP to turn the prop 2035 rpm
 
When I trimmed the prop back to 74x88 I picked up 200 static  engine rpm which this calculator then indicated the engine was producing167.2 HP to turn the prop 2105 rpm
 
So between 165 and 170 HP seems reasonable.
 
 
 
Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com

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