Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #52464
From: George Lendich <lendich@aanet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Permanent Magnet Alternators
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 08:37:50 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Ernest,
Although I must agree with Ed, I also understand your approach.
Mt very first job was in a Foundry, pouring molten metal by hand with an old chap on the other handle end of the crucible. Since then I've done a lot of things but I'm glad I moved on from that.

Aluminium casting is, as much a dark art as much as it is science. Large thin parts are difficult without pressure injection casting- which is high cost

Hand casting can leave unseen voids and evenly distributed bubbles in overheated metal - which all lead to low strength parts.

The beauty of commercial plate is the consistency in strength, without porosity. That's why Tracy used plate instead of a cast bellhousing. There wouldn't be enough demand to set-up for a pressure injection unit which is the compromise between strength , cost and weight.
For motor mounts I would use chrome molley.
George (down under)

I was getting worry, Ernest about the "level" to which you were descending to produce components - I figured next you would start building an electric ore furnance to smart smelting your own aluminum for you casting efforts {:>)

Personally I think you are better off machining it out of know quality plate aluminum - as you have undoubted found out consistency can be difficult to achieve with large castings of aluminum - and therefore strength and hidden flaws can be of concern - particularly when used as a motor mount.

We all want you to stop goofing off and fire up that engine - its been - what three years or more since I flew up and blessed your engine assembly {:>) - and still no engine start?  Get busy, Ernest and stopped getting diverted by undoubtedly interesting - but time consuming side projects. There's way too many projects and  only so much time (and money) to build and airplane{:>)

Ed

Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com


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From: "Ernest Christley" <echristley@att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:51 AM
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Permanent Magnet Alternators

Kelly Troyer wrote:
Todd and Ernest,
 Anything to report on your Permanent Magnet Alternator installations ??...............


I spent last Saturday trying to cast an aluminum mount for my rotor.  I'm really not happy with the sheet metal mount I built.  I've been practicing casting, and I've made several parts, including a couple of crank angle sensor mounts (1/4" of aluminum makes for a really stiff mount).

It turns out that the difficulty of metal casting is proportional to the cube of the parts size.  Right now, I have a chunk of aluminum the size of a one-gallon paint can stuck in my furnace.  I ran out of fuel just as the last ingot was starting to melt, and after that disaster I discovered a small hole had formed in my crucible and was slowly filling the bottom of the furnace.

That's when I decided that I would just order a 12"x12"x2" 6061-T3 aluminum plate and machine it.  I started down the path of a casting before I bought my 12" lathe, but the machining makes more sense anyway.

This is the last major part I need before moving on to an engine start, so the delay kinda sucks, but at least I have a new skill.  I'm going to apply it to making tap handles for the kegs that we use at work during our Friday Beer Bash.

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