X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from poplet4.per.eftel.com ([203.24.100.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4491570 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 18:29:03 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.24.100.41; envelope-from=lendich@aanet.com.au Received: from sv1-1.aanet.com.au (mail.aanet.com.au [203.24.100.34]) by poplet4.per.eftel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47A53BE7C for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 06:28:22 +0800 (WST) Received: from ownerf1fc517b8 (203.171.92.134.static.rev.aanet.com.au [203.171.92.134]) by sv1-1.aanet.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id D2229C5E39 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 06:26:25 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Smoking Gun -Loss of oil pressure Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:26:24 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01CB639D.D5500E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101003-1, 10/04/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01CB639D.D5500E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lynn, I'm with you on that memory thing, sadly my memory has never been that = good to start with. I digress - again. I spoke to Gordon at Mistral and they felt that the = pick-up was causing a vortex, pulling in air, that would account for = foaming. I can't quite remember but didn't they use a 2 tube = arrangement, you mention feeding the rear rotor? Question what is the FD twin turbo? I didn't know about the flat screen in the baffle plate, I just thought = it was a bigger screen, I don't know why I thought that. Why was Mistral having these problems, they weren't running the engines = hard or expecting too high HP from them. Why is it no one else is having these problems OR should they be = anticipating problems. George (down under) I hope to hear from Lynn on a theory as to why this valve fell out of = the engine and what the =E2=80=9Cracers solution=E2=80=9D might be. = This must not be a common occurrence. If it was, engines would be = blowing themselves up right and left. =20 Bill B =20 This usually caused by the phone ringing. Later in life you find that no phone is needed to loose track of what = you just did a minute ago. So as soon as you understand that you cannot = hold a thought in your head or mine, you revert to little helpers. If = you have to stop, leave the socket on the last thing you did. So if you = go out back and whiz, and on your return you see the socket stuck to the = plunger cover, it will remind you that it needs finished. Be sure the = socket is so tall that the pan will not fit onto the engine, lest you = have no oil pressure and a missing socket. It also helps me to talk out = loud as though you were showing a novice how this is supposed to go = together. This helps get strangers interested in whatever you are doing = because they think you are talking to them. After a while they discover = that you are an idiot, with no memory at all, and walk off disgusted. I = have met many like minded (you might say) folks doing this.=20 I have never seen a properly torqued cover fall off, so it must have = been the phone. Lynn E. Hanover ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01CB639D.D5500E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Lynn,
I'm with you = on that=20 memory thing, sadly my memory has never been that good to start=20 with.
 
I digress=20 - again.  I spoke to Gordon at Mistral and they felt that the = pick-up=20 was causing a vortex, pulling in air, that would account for foaming. I = can't=20 quite remember but didn't they use a 2 tube arrangement, you mention = feeding the=20 rear rotor?
Question what = is the FD=20 twin turbo?
I didn't know = about the=20 flat screen in the baffle plate, I just thought it was a bigger screen, = I don't=20 know why I thought that.
 
Why was = Mistral having=20 these problems, they weren't running the engines hard or expecting too = high HP=20 from them.
Why is it no = one else=20 is having these problems OR should they be anticipating=20 problems.
George (down=20 under)
 
I hope to = hear from=20 Lynn = on a theory=20 as to why this valve fell out of the engine and what the =E2=80=9Cracers = solution=E2=80=9D might=20 be.  This must not be a common occurrence.  If it was, engines = would=20 be blowing themselves up right and left.

 

Bill=20 B

 

This usually caused by the phone ringing.
 
 Later in life you find that no phone is needed to loose = track of=20 what you just did a minute ago. So as soon as you understand that you = cannot=20 hold a thought in your head or mine, you revert to little helpers. If = you have=20 to stop, leave the socket on the last thing you did. So if you go out = back and=20 whiz, and on your return you see the socket stuck to the plunger = cover, it=20 will remind you that it needs finished. Be sure the socket is so tall = that the=20 pan will not fit onto the engine, lest you have no oil pressure and a = missing=20 socket. It also helps me to talk out loud as though you were showing a = novice=20 how this is supposed to go together. This helps get strangers = interested in=20 whatever you are doing because they think you are talking to them. = After a=20 while they  discover that you are an idiot, with no memory at = all, and=20 walk off disgusted. I have met many like minded (you might say) folks = doing=20 this.
 
I have never seen a properly torqued cover fall off, so it must = have been=20 the phone.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
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