X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp103.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([66.196.96.86] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with SMTP id 4455927 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:42:45 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.196.96.86; envelope-from=bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net Received: (qmail 41288 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2010 21:42:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1283636531; bh=JNJeT0gHg6MUfH3Fi1GcL11WU1MOZ2MowbRDhj9uyFk=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=lOOm4uj0UPhq/TUYlDGP2+q985fgvLnTj82yrQTupuF33y8EZt15Nh/ScScErqeLIfqVUh3oJWt65+uVeFYXmefsYkmcjWWRi0DRfanT9gSi9EihzDvnG/z9/PY0RYxAh7wJgcdqz5cJ9LatmgE/5rwfXxwGE3xtoMrVkRoQsi0= Received: from acer7fbfa7e2f7 (bryanwinberry@98.88.104.210 with login) by smtp103.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Sep 2010 14:42:10 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: OSuEAS2swBAaBd4uKxevNivslbMG7JXpWjAWZVmoYyRm6qcW_W2VUA-- X-YMail-OSG: x4sLtk8VM1n7YN7wZKmrKjBl8vnVyMB2RCZdadr.txoSn7S QTgFaDuu5FN9HqVs.WCGL2.0E0AQdZT46XZOKmWUrgm1OHLVnEJzPZACr1KC zSKyve8NHEOsnbi.pAXj3lOQvynAyWmdlvQjddxNNeyvZqipjLFGvQvES9Ac ukf95oWrRngHtRA1Sh.BMqlthUxKTWVi6sKAiSH_TVHH3fXhVyQr3x8VrLki w3wA83rA0MKeERjiUXBsCeUBEQelRjtymbunHk2ry3Hh4XmkpfZOtLib8kwl viPYvZKteeWZtYCX8iwltbJFV0LcnIGyb9Xt27lPXOloEOzcBI7EFvwk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Bryan Winberry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:42:05 -0400 Message-ID: <167C617C601E4EE992BA9DCAA86DC04A@acer7fbfa7e2f7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BD_01CB4C58.7E07BB20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: ActMd6orUwRPPprtRiiD8RIKvanqhQAAi30w In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01CB4C58.7E07BB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe I'm missing something, but don't you have to drill the leg positioned in the mount? If so, how can you use a drill press? _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:23 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed Bryan, if you decided to drill your legs, in addition to a drill press, the drill bit itself is important. I would not attempt it unless I used a quality colbalt drill bit (not carbide - too brittle). I would start off with a drill bit undersize but not smaller than 1/8" perhaps 3/16" (too small and they may wander). Then if you progressively enlarge the hold with a larger drill bit, you are more likely to drill a straight hole. You will need to drill at a slow rpm or risk burning the drill bit and hardening the metal even more. If you do not feel comfortable doing this, then the shipping charges to someone who knows what they are doing is probably cheap in the long run. I drilled my own (successfully), but, only because I could not find anyone at the time to do it for me{:>) Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com From: Bryan Winberry Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:12 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed That's what I wanted to do, but Ed K prefers to mount the clips undrilled. This forces me to drill the legs. But, he is apparently able to use Van's mount. Did he charge more for this approach as opposed to his preferred way? I guess shipping is more costly. I guess I need to run it by him again. I haven't bought any mount, but I really don't want to drill my legs. BW _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:02 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed Bryan, The gear legs were straight from Vans. After having been ripped off by Fred Breeze (Conversion Concepts) I ordered an engine mount and matching gear legs from Vans and had Ed Klepis convert it. I had bought a pair from Harman Lang several years ago to be match drill to the CC mount, but after spending the money and not getting the mount I sold them to someone in Texas can't now remember. The only advice that I can relay is that of a machinist friend. Use a good sharp centering punch and good luck if you don't have a good drill press to mount the gear leg in. Wish I could help more. Bob Perkinson RV-9 13B _____ From: Bryan Winberry To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 4:38:41 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed Bob, Any tips on drilling your gear legs? Thanks, Bryan _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:03 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Dimensional help needed Charlie, as you can see in the photo I used a laser light level to find the distance, but as you probably know the line gets somewhat thick the father you get from the source. SO you can add or subtract a 16 th. I got 4" 15/16. Ed Klepis probably has that figure in his notebook. Let me know what other numbers you come up with. Bob Perkinson RV-9 13B ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01CB4C58.7E07BB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Maybe I’m missing something, = but don’t you have to drill the leg positioned in the mount?   If so, = how can you use a drill press? 

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Saturday, September = 04, 2010 5:23 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed

 

Bryan, if you decided to drill = your legs, in addition to a drill press, the drill bit itself is important.  I = would not attempt it unless I used a quality colbalt drill bit (not carbide - too brittle).  I would start off with a drill bit undersize = but not smaller than 1/8" perhaps 3/16" (too small and they may wander).  Then if you progressively enlarge the hold with a larger = drill bit, you are more likely to drill a straight hole.  You will need = to drill at a slow rpm or risk burning the drill bit and hardening the metal even = more.

 

If you do not feel comfortable doing this, then the = shipping charges to someone who knows what they are doing is probably cheap in = the long run.

 

I drilled my own (successfully), but, only because I = could not find anyone at the time to do it for = me{:>)

 

Ed

 

Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton = Road
Weddington, = NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com=

 

Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:12 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed

 

That’s what I wanted to do, = but Ed K prefers to mount the clips undrilled.  This forces me to drill the legs.  But, he is apparently able to use Van’s mount. =  Did he charge more for this approach as opposed to his preferred way?  I = guess shipping is more costly.

I guess I need to run it by him = again.  I haven’t bought any mount, but I really don’t want to = drill my legs.

BW

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob = Perkinson
Sent: Saturday, September = 04, 2010 5:02 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed

 

Bryan,

The gear legs were straight from Vans.  After having been = ripped off by Fred Breeze (Conversion Concepts) I ordered an engine mount and = matching gear legs from Vans and had Ed Klepis convert it. I had bought a pair = from Harman Lang several years ago to be match drill to the CC mount, but = after spending the money and not getting the mount I sold them to someone in = Texas can't = now remember.  The only advice that I can relay is that of a machinist = friend.  Use a good sharp centering punch and good luck if you don't have a = good drill press to mount the gear leg in.

Wish I could help more.

 

Bob Perkinson

RV-9  13B

From: Bryan Winberry <bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Fri, September 3, = 2010 4:38:41 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed

Bob,

Any tips on drilling your gear = legs?

Thanks,

=

Bryan

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson
Sent: Friday, September = 03, 2010 5:03 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Dimensional help needed

 

Charlie,

as you can see in the photo I used a laser light = level to find the distance, but as you probably know the line gets somewhat thick = the father you get from the source.  SO you can add or subtract a 16 = th.  I got 4" 15/16.  Ed Klepis probably has that figure in = his notebook.  Let me know what other numbers you come up = with.

 

Bob Perkinson

RV-9  13B

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