X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4455919 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:24:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=I9jNt1nxKTH53gD05GkuyPyKRWwkJ+Ycr7TuPR2ubTA= c=1 sm=0 a=Ow6Qnd5wXSwA:10 a=rPkcCx1H5rrOSfN0dPC7kw==:17 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=r1ClD_H3AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=ubNhLnEOfGBC_czsAzgA:9 a=wSdX0-H8dgsDAJExQAQA:7 a=QjPckWnT3ds2shLGrYILWj_QflAA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=eJojReuL3h0A:10 a=IJvs6nHJeHI9z9FW:21 a=jT9MLIGWT0jHAKVO:21 a=yO7HnZu3kYFIYJCnmhsA:9 a=ZVA7Uo0PSH9NevTSOUEA:7 a=XPMqOeSrKO_gCp347s-stmzMglkA:4 a=6UoNxpzuSQI4B6Bp:21 a=mC_JjmMAzBuqWyFH:21 a=rPkcCx1H5rrOSfN0dPC7kw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 174.110.167.5 Received: from [174.110.167.5] ([174.110.167.5:59850] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 6D/EF-06064-7F8B28C4; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:24:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:23:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01CB4C55.E3DAF5A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CB4C55.E3DAF5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan, if you decided to drill your legs, in addition to a drill press, = the drill bit itself is important. I would not attempt it unless I used = a quality colbalt drill bit (not carbide - too brittle). I would start = off with a drill bit undersize but not smaller than 1/8" perhaps 3/16" = (too small and they may wander). Then if you progressively enlarge the = hold with a larger drill bit, you are more likely to drill a straight = hole. You will need to drill at a slow rpm or risk burning the drill = bit and hardening the metal even more. If you do not feel comfortable doing this, then the shipping charges to = someone who knows what they are doing is probably cheap in the long run. I drilled my own (successfully), but, only because I could not find = anyone at the time to do it for me{:>) Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com From: Bryan Winberry=20 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:12 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed That's what I wanted to do, but Ed K prefers to mount the clips = undrilled. This forces me to drill the legs. But, he is apparently = able to use Van's mount. Did he charge more for this approach as = opposed to his preferred way? I guess shipping is more costly. I guess I need to run it by him again. I haven't bought any mount, but = I really don't want to drill my legs. BW=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Bob Perkinson Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:02 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed =20 Bryan, The gear legs were straight from Vans. After having been ripped off by = Fred Breeze (Conversion Concepts) I ordered an engine mount and matching = gear legs from Vans and had Ed Klepis convert it. I had bought a pair = from Harman Lang several years ago to be match drill to the CC mount, = but after spending the money and not getting the mount I sold them to = someone in Texas can't now remember. The only advice that I can relay = is that of a machinist friend. Use a good sharp centering punch and = good luck if you don't have a good drill press to mount the gear leg in. Wish I could help more. =20 Bob Perkinson RV-9 13B -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Bryan Winberry To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 4:38:41 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help needed Bob, Any tips on drilling your gear legs? Thanks, Bryan =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Bob Perkinson Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:03 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Dimensional help needed =20 Charlie, as you can see in the photo I used a laser light level to find the = distance, but as you probably know the line gets somewhat thick the = father you get from the source. SO you can add or subtract a 16 th. I = got 4" 15/16. Ed Klepis probably has that figure in his notebook. Let = me know what other numbers you come up with. =20 Bob Perkinson RV-9 13B ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CB4C55.E3DAF5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bryan, if you decided to drill your legs, in = addition to a=20 drill press, the drill bit itself is important.  I would not = attempt it=20 unless I used a quality colbalt drill bit (not carbide - too=20 brittle).  I would start off with a drill bit undersize but not = smaller=20 than 1/8" perhaps 3/16" (too small and they may wander).  Then if = you=20 progressively enlarge the hold with a larger drill bit, you are more = likely to=20 drill a straight hole.  You will need to drill at a slow rpm or = risk=20 burning the drill bit and hardening the metal even more.
 
If you do not feel comfortable doing this, then = the=20 shipping charges to someone who knows what they are doing is probably = cheap in=20 the long run.
 
I drilled my own (successfully), but, only = because I could=20 not find anyone at the time to do it for me{:>)
 
Ed
 
Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic = Enterprises=20 LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com

Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dimensional help = needed

That=92s what = I wanted to=20 do, but Ed K prefers to mount the clips undrilled.  This forces me = to drill=20 the legs.  But, he is apparently able to use Van=92s mount. =  Did he=20 charge more for this approach as opposed to his preferred way?  I = guess=20 shipping is more costly.

I guess I = need to run=20 it by him again.  I haven=92t bought any mount, but I really = don=92t want to=20 drill my legs.

BW=20

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Bob Perkinson
Sent: Saturday, September 04, = 2010 5:02=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Dimensional help=20 needed

 

Bryan,

The gear legs were straight from Vans. =  After=20 having been ripped off by Fred Breeze (Conversion Concepts) I ordered an = engine=20 mount and matching gear legs from Vans and had Ed Klepis convert it. I = had=20 bought a pair from Harman Lang several years ago to be match drill to = the CC=20 mount, but after spending the money and not getting the mount I sold = them to=20 someone in Texas can't now remember.  The = only=20 advice that I can relay is that of a machinist friend.  Use a good = sharp=20 centering punch and good luck if you don't have a good drill press to = mount the=20 gear leg in.

Wish I could help=20 more.

 

Bob = Perkinson

RV-9  13B

From: Bryan=20 Winberry <bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors=20 in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 = 4:38:41=20 PM
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Dimensional help needed

Bob,

Any tips on = drilling=20 your gear legs?

Thanks,

Bryan

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Bob Perkinson
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 = 5:03=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Dimensional = help=20 needed

 

Charlie,

as you can see in the = photo I used a=20 laser light level to find the distance, but as you probably know the = line gets=20 somewhat thick the father you get from the source.  SO you can add = or=20 subtract a 16 th.  I got 4" 15/16.  Ed Klepis probably has = that figure=20 in his notebook.  Let me know what other numbers you come up=20 with.

 

Bob=20 Perkinson

RV-9=20  13B

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