Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #51946
From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo Questions
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:19:54 -0700 (PDT)
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
George,
          Hope to get it all together in this lifetime as my project efforts are still
slowed to a snails pace by my care-giving dutys to my 89 year old mother......
 
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold



From: George Lendich <lendich@aanet.com.au>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 4:03:09 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo Questions


 Kelly,
Let us all know how well it goes for you in the real world application. I can't help but feel we are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole with Turbo application to Aviation needs.
 
Personally for myself, as I have stated before, I feel that I would use remote mounted turbo, like some cars use (to reduce the heat and flow speed to the turbo) and feed it from a bypass off the exhaust pipe. The by-pass could be controlled manually, for (when required) application. A wastegate does the same thing but the exhaust is taken right up to the turbo and carries the heat with it. I think this would go a long way in controlling heat and over spinning issues.
 
However you need the necessary room to make this possible.
George (down under)
Bob, John and All,
 
     Well I have bit the bullet and made my decision for a turbo............After much research, talking to Bob
and John and conferring with a "Turbonetics" dealer I have ordered a TO4E-50 trim (compressor wheel),
wet bearing housing, big shaft "Q" trim (F1-68mm) turbine wheel and 1.15 a/r ratio turbine housing.........
 
     The decision what size turbine wheel and a/r ratio housing was based on the fact that the f1-68mm
turbine and 1.15 a/r housing causes less exhaust back pressure than the smaller wheel (bigger hole) and
will increase rpm less as you increase altitude as opposed to the F1-65mm wheel plus the 1.15 a/r ratio
housing will slow rpm increase for the same reason............
 
    The decision to go with the 50 trim compressor wheel (Like John) verses the 60-1 wheel (Like Bob) was
based the "Flow Maps" of both wheels and my uneducated opinion that the 50 trim wheel would be running
in a more efficient area of the flow map base on the "Air Consumption Chart" (lbs per min) of the 1.3L 13B
that I submitted to the group in a previous post.............Of course for all practical purposes there is probably
little discernible difference between any of these turbo configurations mentioned.............
 
   At least I have livened up the forum for a while !!............FWIW..................<:)
 
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold


 
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