X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [162.39.147.110] (HELO pacmmta51-srv.windstream.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4400634 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:26:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=162.39.147.110; envelope-from=montyr2157@windstream.net Return-Path: X-WS-COS: WSOB804 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=TpNm6i7KDj1TfC5Uj5q8EHgDzGXSHFQilkAXqJPazTQ= c=1 sm=0 a=icvD4VJAi3wA:10 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=r1ClD_H3AAAA:8 a=QdXCYpuVAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=ew0gTLhcAAAA:8 a=MW-B0sqPAAAA:8 a=IwPgo2yzI3rGEpK15DEA:9 a=txVZr5ETwiRdBECeQI0A:7 a=36m4Nsf8VJyYPFUl-KC2GvzjCioA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9s3NAoQOAWgA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=acNfuaCQAAAA:8 a=UretUmmEAAAA:8 a=E93lBu2AAAAA:8 a=z9jG6jQJ9ZjAltmlxrsA:9 a=OS0UnA7WVflLBf5LmUwA:7 a=WE9Es3VJd6VYXQ1FYTeVkp6HP2cA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=TlnOPt13aEMA:10 a=ev2UoL6Eg40A:10 a=iVkDmfvjeKcA:10 a=FOUTPhXFUAcA:10 a=zgjei8Deq7QA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=wrNGQDKrK0kdIWYBW81Q1g==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Authentication-Results: pacmmta51 smtp.user=montyr2157; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [98.20.237.52] ([98.20.237.52:60469] helo=newbox) by pacmmta51 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTPA id 67/00-15354-37E364C4; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:25:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: "MONTY ROBERTS" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:25:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A2_01CB2841.491D66C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01CB2841.491D66C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, I've dialed back my project aspirations a bit, (entirely financial) but = not going to hang it up. I've ruined a few seat cushions. Its funny, those experiences are some = that I treasure the most. What else are you going to talk about around a = campfire? Tales of stupidity and danger are always tops on my list. = Nobody wants to hear about the perfect round of golf you just played or = how nicely you mowed your lawn this morning. (unless you were struck by = lightning or almost cut your foot off) At least I don't. And I'd like to = be able to tell a few stories of my own. Meaning is right. What the hell = is living worth if you don't experience a few things. I will do what I = can to minimize the risk, but you have to get off the sofa. Nobody's = gettin' out o this one alive. Monty=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:06 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills Here, Here! Monty I recently spent a morning with a distant relative who was a fanatic = golfer - his life really revolved around it. For him, it was the best = of all worlds, it got his juices flowing, he got a thrill from it, it = is relatively safe (even considering lightening, runaway golf carts and = errant golf balls) and it gave him a reason (at a fairly advanced age) = to get up in the morning. But, alas, like yourself, while I have played = and do not hate it by any means - its just not something that gives = meaning to my life. =20 I am one of those guys who would never leave a perfectly good aircraft = voluntarily -unlike some of my fellow rotorheads {:>) - too high a risk = factor for my comfort. But, yet=20 having fortunately survived a few close calls, I think "meaning" is = the key factor. No matter what it is, or what the risk is involved - if it gives = meaning to you life, then you are drawn to it like a moth to a candle. =20 So those on this list (whether they recognize it or want to admit it) = simply belong to a group of individuals who are willing to undertake a = certain level of risk (perhaps higher than the normal pilot population) = - furthermore, as a group we believe we have the skills, knowledge, = experience and otherwise wherewithall to moderate that risk to an = acceptable level. Also, The very fact we belong to this list indicates = we are intelligent enough to understand the wisdom of learning from = other's mistakes. We are willing to take a calculated risk but few will = gamble their lives.=20 Yet, underlying it all it the fact, that it is seldom the risk we are = prepared for that does us in - it's generally a scenario that appears = total safe and comfortable that frequently ends the run. I think of = Scott Crossfield, first man to fly twice the speed of sound, and test = pilot extraordinary is a clearly risky profession - who encounter a = situation on a comparatively safe and normal flight in his Cessna 210 = that ended his run. =20 We continue on despite the risk (because of it?) because it gives = meaning to our lives. So it must have to Mike and others who undertook = to play in an environment that presents both risks, challenges and true = sense of accomplishment. =20 With each such event, I ask myself - "is it time to hang up the = wings?" - but, then I almost get creamed by a errant driver on a narrow = two lane road and come to the conclusion that there are so many other = greater probability causes of my demise - that one of them will in all = likely hood do me in before my flying. So I justify (or rationalize) my = continued engagement in a endeavor which gives meaning to my life (and = an occasional thrill). Ed Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com Http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com From: MONTY ROBERTS=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:55 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills Lets you know you are alive though. I'd hate to live a totally risk = free existence. golfing is relatively safe and I'd rather take a beating = than play a round. I like to go fishing in the ocean...that kills people = too. So does driving fast. Skiing, motorcycling, hunting, hiking, = boating. Come to think of it there are not many non-risky behaviors that = I consider "fun". They may be satisfying...but not fun. Risk and fun = seem to be intertwined in some primal way. At least in my peculiar = wiring. =20 I know all the nervous Nellie control freaks want to make the world = safe from itself.....but I think I'll go raise a glass to those who have gone in the pursuit of = fun. There are far worse ways to go, and far worse things to give ones = life for.=20 Monty ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Silvius=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills It is always a gut wrenching thing when we loose one of our own.=20 There but by the grace of God go I..=20 This game we play at is terribly unforgiving of any oversight. On Saturday we lost two of our own community here in Portland. http://www.wmtw.com/news/24295959/detail.html The plane /pilot website http://maineyak.net/ Michael in Maine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills Sorry to report that we lost a fine friend and fellow rotor-head = yesterday. Mike Wills was doing what he loved (flying, this time in a = glider) when apparently he ran out of thermal lift and couldn't find = more before having to make an off field landing. Very few facts in yet = but sounds like a wing clipped a tree before he went in. He will be = missed. Tracy ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01CB2841.491D66C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ed,
 
I've dialed back my project aspirations = a=20 bit, (entirely financial)  but not going to hang it = up.
 
I've ruined a few seat cushions. Its = funny, those=20 experiences are some that I treasure the most. What else are you = going to=20 talk about around a campfire? Tales of stupidity and danger are always = tops on=20 my list. Nobody wants to hear about the perfect round of golf you just = played or=20 how nicely you mowed your lawn this morning. (unless you were struck by=20 lightning or almost cut your foot off) At least I don't. And I'd like to = be able=20 to tell a few stories of my own. Meaning is right. What the hell is = living worth=20 if you don't experience a few things. I will do what I can to minimize = the risk,=20 but you have to get off the sofa. Nobody's gettin' out o this one=20 alive.
 
Monty 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 = 7:06=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike = Wills

Here, Here! Monty
 
I recently spent a morning with a distant = relative=20 who was a fanatic golfer - his life really revolved around it.  = For him,=20 it was the best of all worlds, it got his juices flowing,  he got = a=20 thrill from it, it is relatively safe (even considering lightening, = runaway=20 golf carts and errant golf balls) and it gave him a reason (at a = fairly=20 advanced age) to get up in the morning.  But, alas, like = yourself, while=20 I have played and do not hate it by any means - its just not something = that=20 gives meaning to my life. 
 
I am one of those guys who would never = leave a=20 perfectly good aircraft voluntarily -unlike some of my fellow = rotorheads=20 {:>) - too high a risk factor for my comfort.  But, yet=20
having fortunately survived a few close calls, = I think "meaning" is  the key = factor.
 
 No matter what it is, = or what the=20 risk is involved  - if it gives meaning to you life, then you are = drawn=20 to it like a moth to a candle. 
 
So those on this list (whether they recognize = it or want=20 to admit it) simply belong to a group of individuals who are willing = to=20 undertake a certain level of risk (perhaps higher than the=20 normal pilot population) - furthermore, as a group we = believe we=20 have the skills, knowledge, experience and otherwise wherewithall = to=20 moderate that risk to an acceptable level.  Also, The very = fact we=20 belong to this list indicates we are intelligent enough to = understand the=20 wisdom of learning from other's mistakes.  We are willing to take = a=20 calculated risk but few will gamble their lives. 
 
 Yet, underlying it all it the fact, that = it is=20 seldom the risk we are prepared for that does us in - it=92s=20 generally a scenario that appears total safe and comfortable that = frequently ends  the run.  I think of Scott Crossfield, = first man to=20 fly twice the speed of sound, and test pilot extraordinary is a = clearly=20 risky profession - who encounter a situation on a comparatively=20  safe and normal flight in his Cessna 210 that ended his = run. =20
 
We continue on despite the risk (because of = it?) because=20 it gives meaning to our lives.  So it must have to Mike and = others who=20 undertook to play in an environment that presents both risks, = challenges and=20 true sense of accomplishment.  
 
With each such event, I ask myself - "is it = time to hang=20 up the wings?"  - but, then I almost get creamed by a errant = driver on a=20 narrow two lane road and come to the conclusion that there are so = many=20 other greater probability causes of my demise - that one of them will = in all=20 likely hood do me in before my flying.  So I justify (or = rationalize) my=20 continued engagement in a endeavor which gives meaning to my life (and = an=20 occasional thrill).
 
 
Ed
 
 
 
 
 
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com
Http://www.dmack.net/mazda= /index.html
http://www.flyrotary.com
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:55 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills

Lets you know you are alive though. = I'd hate to=20 live a totally risk free existence. golfing is=20 relatively safe and I'd rather take a beating than play a round. I = like to go=20 fishing in the ocean...that kills people too. So does driving fast. = Skiing,=20 motorcycling, hunting, hiking, boating. Come to think of it there are = not many=20 non-risky behaviors that I consider "fun". They may be = satisfying...but=20 not fun. Risk and fun seem to be intertwined in some primal = way. At=20 least in my peculiar wiring.  
 
I know all the nervous Nellie control = freaks want=20 to make the world safe from itself.....but
 
I think I'll go raise a glass to = those who have=20 gone in the pursuit of fun. There are far worse ways to go, and far = worse=20 things to give ones life for. 
 
Monty
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael = Silvius=20
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 = 6:36=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike = Wills

 
It is always a gut wrenching thing when we = loose one=20 of our own.
 
There  but by the grace of God go I..=20
 
This game we play at is terribly unforgiving = of any=20 oversight.
 
On Saturday we lost two of our own community = here in=20 Portland.
 
http://www.wmtw.com/news/24295959/detail.html
=
The plane /pilot website

http://maineyak.net/
 
Michael in Maine
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Tracy Crook
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 = 9:57=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Mike=20 Wills

Sorry to report that we lost a fine friend and = fellow=20 rotor-head yesterday.

  Mike Wills was doing what he = loved=20 (flying, this time in a glider) when apparently he ran out of = thermal lift=20 and couldn't find more before having to make an off field = landing. =20 Very few facts in yet but sounds like a wing clipped a tree before = he went=20 in.  He will be missed.

Tracy
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