X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-gw0-f52.google.com ([74.125.83.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4398757 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:31:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.83.52; envelope-from=mikefapex@gmail.com Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17so2169153gwj.25 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:31:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qWgbzlLr8bQqWdHxOqxJgl1aW4/BLMfGlIXqVXjB39g=; b=FWdMadUWQ4Ww0JF9qvSqndVj0j9yo0Hkyo5CyYopdooT4BwnGxFd6yuh5t6MKHrZNH 6LqQ8ay7YEz3mupA082GscUA00wptnablkY2PVKXv5F0g2cnKDB9bZCs4BRc+Y/CyeFD eBupaTwK9BXhihVey20Qo/buMi0pXgrvY6zYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=GISVFVOSkGpJqgG8rtQkA5I8xCyjarpkVQjC5S+hC4yOXyKPhy1kY39sZqriC3m/RJ +zb0SvMwNSlQHBnCL7Lr6r7NL9V4osKf4Y282R3kNGU307sj1n3R1f2iE8KsrHNDRlFH KB/8I0nwIxd+pb2DP1lOyAPrmjZPygPlx33+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.3.6 with SMTP id 6mr5024174qal.128.1279571466091; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mikefapex@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.79.130 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:31:05 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zvrdOBEmfUqMsFtXgTrye49G1Rg Message-ID: Subject: EC2 Crank Sensor mounting question? From: Mike Fontenot To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ca8e2b37e50048bc3723d --0015175ca8e2b37e50048bc3723d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have a question about mounting the Crank Position Sensors themselves. My system is an EC2 computer on a GEO 1.3L engine with two crank sensors, one for the A computer, and a separate one for the B computer. Do you see a downside to having both the A and B crank position sensors mounted on a bracket so that they BOTH are reading the same toothed wheel on the engine crank pulley? Can the EC2 B computer run and adjust itself to work if it is receiving the crank sensor signal coming from a differently oriented crank sensor? BACKGROUND: In my recent tuning efforts I have found that the 'B' crank sensor teeth is causing the engine to run rough when going above 1800 RPM. I have a small pulley that has replaced the stock GEO harmonic balancer. The main pulley has the teeth cut into it for the A computer and A CPS to read. There is also a secondary set of teeth specifically for the B CPS/B computer backup combination. On the same shaft but closer to the engine. 1. A computer connected to A CPS, reading A teeth - smooth/OK 2. B computer connected to B CPS, reading A teeth - smooth/OK 3. A computer connected to A CPS, reading B teeth - rough as a cob 4. B computer connected to B CPS, reading B teeth - rough as a cob My Sherlock-Holmes-ian deduction says the B teeth are out of spec and contributing mightily to the engine roughness. And I am thinking: just forget that second set of teeth and use the primary A/teeth for both sensors (A & B). But I wanted to check with more experienced folks before pursuing something like this. Thanks in advance, Mike --0015175ca8e2b37e50048bc3723d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question about mounting the Crank Position Sensors themselves.=20 My system is an EC2 computer on a GEO 1.3L engine with two crank sensors, o= ne for the A computer, and a separate one for the B computer.

Do yo= u see a downside to having both the A and B crank position sensors=20 mounted on a bracket so that they BOTH are reading the same toothed=20 wheel on the engine crank pulley? Can the EC2 B computer run and adjust its= elf to work if it is receiving the crank sensor signal coming from a differ= ently oriented crank sensor?

BACKGROUND: In my recent tuning efforts I have found that the 'B= 9;=20 crank sensor teeth is causing the engine to run=20 rough when going above 1800 RPM. I have a small pulley that=20 has replaced the stock GEO harmonic balancer. The main pulley has the teeth cut into it for the A computer and A CPS to read.=A0 There is also a= secondary set of teeth specifically for the B CPS/B computer backup combination. On the same shaft but closer to the engine.

1. A computer connected to A CPS, reading A teeth - smooth/OK
2. B computer connected to B CPS, reading A teeth - smooth/OK
3. A=20 computer connected to A CPS, reading B teeth - rough as a cob
4. B=20 computer connected to B CPS, reading B teeth - rough as a cob

My Sherlock-Holmes-ian deduction says the B teeth are out of spec=20 and contributing mightily to the engine roughness. And I am thinking:=20 just forget that second set of teeth and use the primary A/teeth for=20 both sensors (A & B).=A0 But I wanted to check with more experienced fo= lks before=20 pursuing something like this.

Thanks in advance,
Mike


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