X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.7) with ESMTP id 4316821 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:13:19 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=4x/L/B2yxJxLb41s3JXeIUS8CB8wb2aT6sLVld0bcuM= c=1 sm=0 a=bCLsJnbFincA:10 a=ADBQPqJMlbwA:10 a=Er6hwA6a1l4K/FyzC6NN7w==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=QdXCYpuVAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=ekHE3smAAAAA:20 a=UretUmmEAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=YpRtoV6w-jMf-0NDglcA:9 a=Qgg53wk5mIwNtC8Tw3QA:7 a=KcIf0HAe5v2RUzsJ0hr9fNbdyb8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=1vhyWl4Y8LcA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=ctDZqEavrfR6XzBA:21 a=5YtiagjioLFe4PvO:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=y3BZw66LrhB6o8hBGhAA:7 a=y1HmzXVU-ekzdKxu7NEslJBNVnQA:4 a=ZvpcBVRn8eokC2OC:21 a=S606fam_er1KQifV:21 a=Er6hwA6a1l4K/FyzC6NN7w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.181.123.159 Received: from [75.181.123.159] ([75.181.123.159:4699] helo=computername) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 48/6E-28303-AB231FB4; Mon, 17 May 2010 12:12:43 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" Message-ID: <48.6E.28303.AB231FB4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Turbo Velocity progress Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 08:12:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01CAF598.AD927090" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Thread-Index: Acr1LXDma/j3LvJLQdm6yU26R6Eh8gAjH2Kg This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CAF598.AD927090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Chris, Don't you just hate it when you've only yourself to blame? {:>). Other than the dinged radiator, it appears you are getting things sorted out, Chris. A tough, long process it can be as you can certainly attest to. You are clearly getting very close to that first flight. Take your time, no hurry (says I {:>)). Looking forward to more reports. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Chris Barber Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 3:23 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Turbo Velocity progress I got my turbo manifold welded up (thanks to a friend on the field), turbo and waste gate installed and this last week I got the intercooler, BOV and piping all plumbed together. I also removed a big ol' fan that I think was restricting radiator air flow that was located on the "in" side of the radiator and replaced it with two smaller fans located on the "out" side to pull air through the radiator. I pushed the plane out of the hangar, chocked her up, advanced the mixture to full right, gave it four spurts of prime and she cranked right up, dialed the mixture to twelve o'clock and it ran pretty darn smooth. WOW, is it QUIETER!!!! REALLY really Quieter. Straight pipes out of the rotary was having the military jet jockey's coming by to see what the noise was All looked good...well, since the building Gawds like to have fun at my expense after running for a few minutes I noticed a nice stream of coolant shooting up into the air. Sigh. I must have ding the radiator when I pulled out the old fan. Anyway, I did shut down and just to see what would happen, I started it up and shut down a few times. It started fine each time (this had been a problem in the past). No more primer needed and the mixture was just past twelve o'clock. The leak was not a real factor for these short runs. Here is a link to it running at idle. Note no leak since the pressure had not risen yet. Please forgive the artifacts of the prop as this was taken on my phone. I am not as close to the prop as the artifacts make it appear. I will try to remember to take my camera out once the new radiator is installed and get some shots of the install and plumbing and better running shots. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SpsHZJmw9c I did apply some power twice and got it up to 39 MP at just over 6000 rpm for several seconds. I was not able to test much due to the leak. I pushed her back in to the hangar and removed the bad radiator. I could have messed with getting the leak fixed, but the reality is the PITA factor would have bugged me (find a shop, perhaps have to find another shop, have them repair and test, charge me, maybe got it right, maybe not....etc) so I just ordered a new one for $250 from Summit. It should be here in a few days and delivered to my door. I occupied myself the rest of the evening doing some clean up work that was much easier with the radiator removed. I also made a support bracket to help support the turbo so all the weight is not on the turbo/exhaust manifold. Even though I am annoyed at the radiator leak (can't blame anyone but myself), it was a great two days of progress overall. It was great to hear the plane run so much quieter and to have it start and RESTART all but effortlessly. Also, I got my Dynon Skyview mostly installed. The AHARS is a combination of the magnometer and the pressure sensors so you have to mount the unit in a magnetically neutral area AND run pressure lines to the unit. So, finding a good location in a canard is posing a challenge. The Dynon looks really kewl though. I am waiting for a buddy of mine to finish some of the more complex wiring tying my King 125's, Transponder, audio panel and intercom. It is his line of work and allows him a break from his RV-7 with a Soob build Anyway, so it goes. All the best, Chris Barber Houston, GSOT ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01CAF598.AD927090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Chris,

 

Don’t you just hate it when = you’ve only yourself to blame? {:>).  Other than the dinged radiator, = it appears you are getting things sorted out, Chris.  A tough, long process it = can be as you can certainly attest to.

You are clearly getting very close = to that first flight.  Take your time, no hurry (says I {:>)).  = Looking forward to more reports.

 

Ed

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Chris Barber
Sent: Sunday, May 16, = 2010 3:23 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Turbo Velocity progress

 

I got my turbo manifold welded up (thanks to a friend on the field), turbo and waste = gate installed and this last week I got the intercooler, BOV and piping all plumbed = together.

 

I also removed a big ol' fan that = I think was restricting radiator air flow that was located on the "in" side of the radiator and replaced it with two smaller = fans located on the "out" side to pull air through the = radiator.

 

I pushed the plane out of the = hangar, chocked her up, advanced the mixture to full right, gave it four spurts = of prime and she cranked right up, dialed the mixture to = twelve o'clock and it ran pretty darn smooth.  WOW, is it QUIETER!!!!  REALLY really Quieter.  Straight pipes out of the rotary = was having the military jet jockey's coming by to see what the noise was = <g>

 

All looked good...well, since the building Gawds like to have fun at my expense after running for a = few minutes I noticed a nice stream of coolant shooting up into the = air.  Sigh.  I must have ding the radiator when I pulled out the old = fan. 

 

Anyway, I did shut down and just = to see what would happen, I started it up and shut down a few times.  It = started fine each time (this had been a problem in the past).  No more = primer needed and the mixture was just past twelve o'clock. The leak was not a = real factor for these short runs.  

 

Here is a link to it running at idle.  Note no leak since the pressure had not risen yet.  = Please forgive the artifacts of the prop as this was taken on my phone.  I = am not as close to the prop as the artifacts make it appear.  I will try = to remember to take my camera out once the new radiator is installed and = get some shots of the install and plumbing and better running = shots.

 

 

I did apply some power twice and = got it up to 39 MP at just over 6000 rpm for several seconds.  I was not = able to test much due to the leak.  I pushed her back in to the hangar and = removed the bad radiator.  I could have messed with getting the leak fixed, but the reality is the PITA factor would have = bugged me (find a shop, perhaps have to find another = shop<g>, have them repair and test, charge me, maybe got it right, maybe not....etc) = so I just ordered a new one for $250 from Summit.  It should be here in a few days and delivered to my = door.

 

I occupied myself the rest of the evening doing some clean up work that was much easier with the radiator removed.  I also made a support bracket to help support the turbo = so all the weight is not on the turbo/exhaust = manifold.

 

Even though I am annoyed at = the radiator leak (can't blame anyone but myself), it was a great two days = of progress overall.  It was great to hear the plane run so much = quieter and to have it start and RESTART all but effortlessly.  =

 

Also, I got = my Dynon Skyview mostly installed.  The AHARS is a combination of = the magnometer and the pressure sensors so you have to mount the unit in a magnetically neutral area AND run pressure lines to the unit. So, finding a good = location in a canard is posing a challenge.  The Dynon looks = really kewl though.

 

I am waiting for a buddy of mine = to finish some of the more complex wiring tying my King 125's, Transponder, audio panel and intercom.  It is his line of work and = allows him a break from his RV-7 with a Soob build <g> =

 

Anyway, so it = goes.

 

All the = best,

 

Chris = Barber

Houston, = GSOT

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