X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from lrcmmta07-srv.windstream.net ([166.102.165.79] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.7) with ESMTP id 4316175 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 16 May 2010 10:50:38 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=166.102.165.79; envelope-from=jskmberki@windstream.net Return-Path: X-WS-COS: WSOB804 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nzXgTb8gg8J9s9+yuV9SmeqAcLP/I+13XQGXc6jeIZw= c=1 sm=0 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=ROpsnkUd7E7mMxfGrrYA:9 a=3QpPMOPw1JJ9_A-kIE4A:7 a=2RCLxghV_q-9dyIxkKXK-9d2tWYA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=TlnOPt13aEMA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=UretUmmEAAAA:8 a=N-fW9BFCt9Zr0vQelhUA:9 a=CpldZXnBdOwKDbQypLEA:7 a=pMqpHcc5ZCAsl8JMURorcLgQLdoA:4 a=iVkDmfvjeKcA:10 a=/bLzm1tzyOi/QoGj1BQOmg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Authentication-Results: lrcmmta07 smtp.user=jskmberki; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [174.130.32.81] ([174.130.32.81:60735] helo=joehomepc) by lrcmmta07 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTPA id E6/B8-26598-91600FB4; Sun, 16 May 2010 09:50:01 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01caf508$7b5f3120$01fea8c0@joehomepc> From: "josrph berki" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil pans Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 11:00:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01CAF4E6.F394C870" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CAF4E6.F394C870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tracy, I took another look at the third gen front cover on a 2nd gen motor. It = seems to cut the corners when compared to the outline of the 2nd gen = pan. i think it would be easier to modify the pan then to find a 3rd = gen pan with holes that don't line up. 3 holes in the 3rd gen cover = line up with the 2nd gen pan. The plug side looks like you could weld = one hole shut and re drill. The intake / exhaust side looks like you = could weld a flange in the corner of the pan extending the flange = inboard, backfill the space between the flange and the pan with JB Weld = and re drill 2 holes in new locations. The two bolts going in these = holes would need to be longer and a curved spacer would be need to = distribute the pressure from the back side of the head of the bolt to = the curved pan surface. Joe Berki Limo EZ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:45 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil pans Most holes but not all will line up. I have 2nd gen pan on a 3rd gen front side housing on my 20B (a real = "bastard" of an engine. Tracy On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: Joe, About 99.9% positive the 3rd gen oil pan will fit 2nd gen with 3rd = gen front cover .................. =20 Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: josrph berki To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 3:29:32 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Oil pans Does anyone know if a third gen 13b oil pan would line up with the = holes in 2nd gen motor with a third gen timing cover? I installed the 3rd = gen cover on the 2ndgen mockup motor and the pan bolts are way off. I need = the room the the CAS takes up. Thanks for any help. Joe Berki Limo EZ -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01CAF4E6.F394C870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tracy,
 
I took another look at the third gen = front cover on=20 a 2nd gen motor.  It seems to cut the corners when compared to the = outline=20 of the 2nd gen pan.  i think it would be easier to modify the pan = then to=20 find a 3rd gen pan with holes that don't line up.  3 holes in the = 3rd gen=20 cover line up with the 2nd gen pan.  The plug side looks like you = could=20 weld one hole shut and re drill.  The intake / exhaust side looks = like you=20 could weld a flange in the corner of the pan extending the flange = inboard,=20 backfill the space between the flange and the pan with JB Weld and = re drill=20 2 holes in new locations.  The two bolts going in these holes would = need to=20 be longer and a curved spacer would be need to distribute the pressure = from the=20 back side of the head of the bolt to the curved pan = surface.
 
Joe Berki
Limo EZ
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tracy=20 Crook
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:45 = AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil = pans

Most holes but not all will line up.

I have 2nd = gen pan=20 on a 3rd gen front side housing on my 20B (a real "bastard" of an=20 engine.

Tracy

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kelly = Troyer <keltro@att.net>=20 wrote:
Joe,
  About 99.9% positive the 3rd gen oil pan will fit = 2nd gen=20 with 3rd gen front cover ..................
 
Kelly=20 Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY=20 Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20


From: josrph berki = <jskmberki@windstream.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 = 3:29:32=20 PM
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Oil=20 pans

Does anyone know if a third gen 13b oil pan = would line up=20 with the holes in
2nd gen motor with a third gen timing = cover?  I=20 installed the 3rd gen cover
on the 2ndgen mockup motor and the = pan bolts=20 are way off.  I need the room
the the CAS takes up. Thanks = for any=20 help.

Joe Berki
Limo EZ


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