X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from lrcmmta09-srv.windstream.net ([166.102.165.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.6) with ESMTP id 4251775 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 07 May 2010 20:25:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=166.102.165.81; envelope-from=jskmberki@windstream.net Return-Path: X-WS-COS: WSOB804 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=GFkhzNI2WCwvYFUD8Mn3IZc9qlgQ7pj40XyDL6kbdDw= c=1 sm=0 a=f-VNXr5MoHQA:10 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=bEA57O4SLx4s_7iCSTwA:9 a=ewRd6xyO9H4M4HVwTQMA:7 a=ykML6EqPBOcILhwECXrMeDm1eRgA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=TlnOPt13aEMA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pwIP7ZobAAAA:8 a=NyfgJmMsAAAA:8 a=E-cC4H-1_t1fQP4vS18A:9 a=DNblsCgJbnUtxMMG680A:7 a=A13TwLmEPUBHMW-6O6HtMOXhGpIA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=NNuZfLpTIp0pWdlqUP+u/w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Authentication-Results: lrcmmta09 smtp.user=jskmberki; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [174.130.40.45] ([174.130.40.45:60746] helo=joehomepc) by lrcmmta09 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTPA id B3/91-17115-45FA4EB4; Fri, 07 May 2010 19:24:53 -0500 Message-ID: <004501caee46$4430f120$01fea8c0@joehomepc> From: "josrph berki" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] 4140 Chrome Moly Rear Counterweights Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 20:34:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01CAEE24.BCA20AD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1983 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1983 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CAEE24.BCA20AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kelly, Yes, I have a 88 and 89 motor and wanted to use the 89 but one rotor was = trashed as was the rotor housing. I found a rotor housing, installed P = Ports and lapped and sealed the irons. So I will have a 89 motor with 88 = rotors. Just found a 93 front cover and a flex plate so I need the = counterweight and this is the best I have seen. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:02 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] 4140 Chrome Moly Rear Counterweights Joe, Yes !! I believe you found your rotors to be the 86 to 88+ (cast = combustion depresson) a while back if I remember correctly................. -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Original message from "josrph berki" = : --------------=20 =EF=BB=BF=20 OK 89 thru 95 take the same cw and the 86 thru 88 take a different = cw? Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 7:40 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] 4140 Chrome Moly Rear Counterweights Joe, Actually the 86 to early 89 were the same then 89 to 95 were for = the same weight rotors (last year the 3rd generation RX7 was imported to the US = although it was produced in Japan until about 2002). The way to tell if a 89 engine is early or late production is to = check the combustion dish (depression) of the rotor.........If it is rough (as cast) = uses the 86 to early 89 counterweight. If the the combustion dish is smooth (machined) it is a late 89 = to 95 rotor and uses 89 to 95 counterweight. The Renesis rotors are a different weight and uses the = appropriate counterweight.=20 Also the compression ratio of a given year model rotor makes no = difference as the NA or Turbo rotors are the same weight. Hope this helps, =20 -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Original message from "josrph berki" = : --------------=20 =EF=BB=BF=20 I thought that the 86 to 88 was one weight 89 to 92 another and = 93 to 95 another weight. Looking for a 88 rear counterweight, Joe Berki ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] FW: 4140 Chrome Moly Rear Counterweights -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Forwarded Message: --------------=20 From: "Kelly Troyer" =20 To: "Troyer, Kelly" ,=20 Subject: 4140 Chrome Moly Rear Counterweights=20 Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 14:28:05 +0000=20 Group, Supplier of aftermarket racing rear counterweights for 86 = to 95 13B and also RX8 Renesis engines..........Made of 4140 chrome moly = and twice as strong as stock (their claim)...........Priced at $98.00 = they are $40.00 + less expensive as Mazda counterweights from = "Mazdatrix".........FWIW = http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-FLYWHEEL-COUNTER-WEIGHT-BALANCE-89-MAZD= A-RX7-TURBO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q= 26psQ3d63QQ_trksidZp4340Q2ee17000Q2em7QQcategoryZ33732QQihZ027QQitemZ4000= 64702372 = http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-FLYWHEEL-COUNTER-WEIGHT-BALANCE-86-89-R= X7-TURBO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q26p= sQ3d63QQ_trksidZp4340Q2ee17000Q2em7QQcategoryZ33732QQihZ022QQitemZ3503083= 92397 = http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RACING-FLYWHEEL-COUNTER-WEIGHT-BALANCE-= MAZDA-RX-8_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q2= 6psQ3d63QQ_trksidZp4340Q2ee17000Q2em7QQcategoryZ33732QQihZ022QQitemZ35032= 7798267 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CAEE24.BCA20AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Kelly,
Yes, I have a 88 and 89 motor and = wanted to use the=20 89 but one rotor was trashed as was the rotor housing.  I found a = rotor=20 housing, installed P Ports and lapped and sealed the irons. So I will = have a 89=20 motor with 88 rotors. Just found a 93 front cover and a flex plate so I = need the=20 counterweight and this is the best I have seen.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kelly = Troyer
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:02 = PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] 4140 = Chrome Moly=20 Rear Counterweights

Joe,
  Yes !! I believe you found your rotors to be the 86 to 88+ = (cast=20 combustion
depresson) a while back if I remember=20 correctly.................
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke = Delta"_13B=20 ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold=20



 
--------------=20 Original message from "josrph berki" <jskmberki@windstream.net>= :=20 --------------

=EF=BB=BF
OK 89 thru 95 take the same cw and = the 86 thru=20 88 take a different cw?
 
Joe
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Kelly = Troyer=20
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 = 7:40=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] 4140 = Chrome Moly=20 Rear Counterweights

Joe,
  Actually the 86 to early 89 were the same then 89 = to 95=20 were for the same weight
rotors (last year the 3rd generation RX7 was imported to = the US=20 although it was produced in Japan until about 2002).
 
 The way to tell if a 89 engine is early or late = production is=20 to check the combustion
dish (depression) of the rotor.........If it is rough (as=20 cast) uses the 86 to early 89 counterweight.
 
 If the the combustion dish is smooth (machined) it = is a=20 late 89 to 95 rotor and uses
89 to 95 counterweight.
 
 The Renesis rotors are a different weight and uses = the=20 appropriate counterweight. 
 
 Also the compression ratio of a given year model rotor = makes no=20 difference as the
NA or Turbo rotors are the same weight.
 
Hope this helps,
     
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke = Delta"_13B=20 ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold=20



 
--------------=20 Original message from "josrph berki" = <jskmberki@windstream.net>:=20 --------------

=EF=BB=BF
I thought that the 86 to 88 was = one weight=20 89 to 92 another and 93 to 95 another weight.
Looking for a =  88 rear counterweight,
 
Joe Berki
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Kelly = Troyer=20
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Sent: Friday, May 07, = 2010 10:34=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = FW: 4140=20 Chrome Moly Rear Counterweights

 
--
Kelly Troyer =
"Dyke=20 Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =



 
--------------=20 Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "Kelly Troyer" = <keltro@att.net> =
To: "Troyer,=20 Kelly" <keltro@att.net>,=20
Subject: 4140 Chrome Moly Rear Counterweights
Date: = Fri, 07=20 May 2010 14:28:05 +0000

 
Group,
   Supplier of aftermarket racing rear = counterweights=20 for 86 to 95 13B and
also RX8 Renesis engines..........Made of 4140 chrome = moly and=20 twice
as strong as stock (their claim)...........Priced at = $98.00=20 they are $40.00 +
less expensive as Mazda counterweights from=20 "Mazdatrix".........FWIW
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-FLYWHEEL-COUNTER-WEIG= HT-BALANCE-89-MAZDA-RX7-TURBO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26it= uQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q26psQ3d63QQ_trksidZp4340Q2ee17000Q2em7QQcategoryZ33732Q= QihZ027QQitemZ400064702372
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-FLYWHEEL-COUNTER-WEIGHT-= BALANCE-86-89-RX7-TURBO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUC= IQ26otnQ3d3Q26psQ3d63QQ_trksidZp4340Q2ee17000Q2em7QQcategoryZ33732QQihZ02= 2QQitemZ350308392397
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RACING-FLYWHEEL-COUNTE= R-WEIGHT-BALANCE-MAZDA-RX-8_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ= 3dUCIQ26otnQ3d3Q26psQ3d63QQ_trksidZp4340Q2ee17000Q2em7QQcategoryZ33732QQi= hZ022QQitemZ350327798267
 
 
 3D""=20 3D""=20
--
Kelly Troyer =
"Dyke=20 Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =



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