X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.6) with ESMTP id 4246422 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 May 2010 20:36:54 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.53; envelope-from=keltro@att.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=att.net; s=dkim01; i=keltro@att.net; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1272933414; h=Content-Type: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=Y4mk32 S2ub/OU0Njgo27Gm0j5fnTCkUly6Dfr5NtaOU=; b=AbnVlTH9ZCTnBZ0w0deZ78APf iRfAayN+sQ2XBh7AhIKKHRbovj4CwBTns91HmTOdM0nmA2dy+9488qKAtrVIA== Received: from fwebmail01.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.151]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20100504003618H0300jecvbe>; Tue, 4 May 2010 00:36:18 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.115.11.151] Received: from [208.114.46.122] by fwebmail01.isp.att.net; Tue, 04 May 2010 00:36:18 +0000 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: TurboCharger Choices for 13B Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 00:36:18 +0000 Message-Id: <050420100036.24132.4BDF6C01000927AB00005E4422218865869B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B040A05@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24132_1272933378_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24132_1272933378_0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, I presume your turbo is a TO-4...........Do you know which turbine wheel= you have ?.............I have been talking to "Turbonetics" about a TO-4, = 50-1 trim, 1.15 a/r turbine housing and they say my only choices for the turbine wheel= are the F1-65 mm or the F1-68 mm with the 1.15 a/r housing...........I have ind= icated flight up to 18,000 ft (not often) and they have suggested the F1-68 mm to = avoid overspeed at high altitude............ I have compared the TO-4 50-1 and 60-1 compressor maps and used 25 lb/mi= n airflow at a max 1.7 p/r (approx 10 psi boost or 50 in/mp).......Both the 5= 0 & 60 -1 look good on the flow charts and wondered what the factor was for= your choice of the 60-1.......... Realistically I will not use over about 5 psi or 40 in/mp and will just = normalize most of the time...... I would like to know what boost figures you use for take off, climb and c= ruise plus what altitude you typically cruise at.............. Thanks -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Original message from "Rogers, Bob J." : -= -------------=20 My turbo is a Turbonetics 60-1 compressor trim, with 1.15 A/R divided tang,= oil to bearings, and water cooled. See the following link. =20 http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?productid=3D16138&cat=3D252&page=3D1 o= r the attached .pdf file (if it can be transmitted).=20=20 =20 Bob =20 =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Kelly Troyer Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:52 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 Bob, Curious as to the make,model, Compressor Trim and A/R of the Turbine housing of your Turbo ??................... =20 -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 =20 -------------- Original message from "Rogers, Bob J." : -= -------------=20 I am the guy in McKinney. See http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdispla= y.asp?id=3D10 and http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36 I am not an A&P. =20 Bob Rogers Mustang II N62BT =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Bryan Winberry Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:57 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 There=E2=80=99s also a guy in McKinney. I can=E2=80=99t remember his name,= but you could find it on the EAA website. Bryan =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Bill Eslick Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area =20 Al, I am about 70 miles SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason Hutchis= on also has a rotary-powered RV-6A here. Feel free to visit anytime. Neit= her of us is an A&P. Bill Eslick On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen wrote: Who do we have in Dallas area installing or flying rotary engine? Anyone wi= th A&P Certification? =20 Thanks, =20 Al =20 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24132_1272933378_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24132_1272933378_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24132_1272933378_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bob,
   I presume your turbo is a TO-4...........Do you know whic= h turbine wheel you have ?.............I have been talking to "Turbonetics"= about a TO-4, 50-1 trim,
1.15 a/r turbine housing and they say my only choices for the turbine = wheel are
the F1-65 mm or the F1-68 mm with the 1.15 a/r housing...........I hav= e indicated
flight up to 18,000 ft (not often) and they have suggested the F1-68 m= m to avoid
overspeed at high altitude............
 
   I have compared the TO-4 50-1 and 60-1 compressor ma= ps and used 25 lb/min
airflow at a max 1.7 p/r (approx 10 psi boost or 50 in/mp).......= Both the 50 & 60 -1 look good on the flow charts and wondered what the = factor was for your choice of the 60-1..........
 
  Realistically I will  not use over about 5 psi or 40 in/mp= and will just normalize most of the time......
 
  I would like to know what boost figures you use for t= ake off, climb and cruise
plus what altitude you typically cruise at..............
 
Thanks
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_1= 3B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d



 
-------------- Original message from "Rogers, Bob J." <BR= ogers@FDIC.gov>: --------------

My turbo is a Turbone= tics 60-1 compressor trim, with 1.15 A/R divided tang, oil to bearings, and= water cooled.  See the follo= wing link.

 

htt= p://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?productid=3D16138&cat=3D252&page= =3D1  or the attached .pd= f file (if it can be transmitted).  =

 

Bob=

 

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010= 3:52 PM
To: Rotary moto= rs in aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Bob,

  Curious as to the make,model, Compressor Trim and = A/R of  the

Turbine housing of your Turbo ??...................<= /o:p>

 

--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyk= e Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/O= il Manifold


 

-------------- Original mes= sage from "Rogers, Bob J." <BRogers@FDIC.gov>: --------------

I am the guy in McKinney.  See http://w= ww.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp?id=3D10 and http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisp= lay.asp?id=3D36

I am not an A&P.<= o:p>

 

Bob Rogers=

Mustang II=

N62BT

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Winberry
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010= 12:57 PM
To: Rotary mot= ors in aircraft
Subject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas= area

 

There=E2=80=99s also = a guy in McKinney.  I can=E2=80=99t remember his name, but you could find it on the EA= A website.

Bryan

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Eslick
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:= 54 PM
To: Rotary motors = in aircraft
Subject: [Fl= yRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Al,

I am about 70 mi= les SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason Hutchison also has a ro= tary-powered RV-6A here.  Feel free to visit anytime.  Neither of= us is an A&P.

Bill Eslick

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:=

Who do we have in Dallas area installing or flying rotary engine? Anyon= e with A&P Certification?

 

Thanks,

 

Al

<= /DIV>

 

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